Author Topic: Axl's Improved Voice and Album release date delay (Read 2174 times)

©GnrPersia · « **on:** August 13, 2006, 06:09:27 PM »

Vocals, the Main Reason of delay?

one of the main things which makes some doubt for me about finishing the album-by the end of this year-is definitley Axl's Voice.

And it's also makes me curious to know if Axl ever had anyone to help him on improving his vocals (specially the raspy part) during his recording sessions. nowadays his voice is somehow even better and heavier than 80s (thanks to Sebastian Bach). so It makes me think wheter if he wants to use his recent voice on tracks of the new album.

this is something that really makes me think about these days, but I really like to hear his recent voice on the new studio songs even if it leads us fans to wait another next months. however I'm sure they used lots of studio effects and technics on his Voice during ('98-'03?) recording sessions.

/Adel (GnrPersia)

rockgod · « **Reply #1 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:46:06 PM »

Not sure about the album being put back but definately agree Axl is sounding better than ever in my opinion, just an incredible voice

Jason Lee · « **Reply #2 on:** August 13, 2006, 06:50:46 PM »

I think that over the last 10 years or so Axl has changed his sound over and over again. That is one thing that makes his voice so special. All of the different styles that he can pull off. Im sure he has been able to make his voice sound different many times over the years. And so saying this I believe that he has all different styles covered. The reason for the change now is because of the poor reception he got in 02 for his voice. He has come back and sounds more raw and sleazy, its difficult because people like him to sound rough and raw, but they want him to hit the high notes too. He cant always do it,. Never has been able to. Sometimes yeah...and it is magic. That is one reason I think he is such a perfectionist in the studio. He wants to get the right vocal sound for the right song. And it cant always be done in one day. It may take days of screaming his ass off or something I dont know. Maybe not even talking for days and then working on something. His voice is definately fragile. It comes and goes very easily. I dont know...I'll shut up now. What do you think?

misterbrownstone · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:01:08 PM »

he said 'Fall, late fall. It'll be out!'. redoing ALL the vocals will push the album back to early/mid next year, and then it'll be another cycle of the same-old same-old. it's now or never for the Ax-man.

Gagarin · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:15:44 PM »

Well, a few things:

- The Boston 2002 Promo had studio samples (seconds of them) from Chinese Democracy, Madagascar, The Blues and they had a soulful rasp.

- The ending of Rocket Queen on Live Era is a studio re-record from 1999 (no debates, please) and it doesn't really sound like 2002, it's high and pretty clean though.

- Sweet Child O Mine ending from Big Daddy credits is newer vocals and they sound like the Axl who is touring now.

- Anywhere else in Live Era that was redone and isn't as obvious, I don't know.

He's always had that voice in the studio but touring... and it started to pop up again in MSG 2002 if I am not mistaken.

misterbrownstone · « **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:16:44 PM »

he was probably not killing his voice on tour, but saving it for the album.

brianfantana · « **Reply #6 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:22:13 PM »

dude im pretty sure that sweet child o mine in big daddy is a cheyrl crow cover

cuddergnr · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:30:12 PM »

Quote from: "brianfantana"

dude im pretty sure that sweet child o mine in big daddy is a cheyrl crow cover

watch end credits it there, i have the movie

misterbrownstone · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:30:24 PM »

Quote from: "brianfantana"

dude im pretty sure that sweet child o mine in big daddy is a cheyrl crow cover

dude i'm pretty sure there's a Guns N' Roses version where it's in standard tuning and the first 1/2 is the old band playing it live and the second 1/2 is the new band in the studio.

cuddergnr · « **Reply #9 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:32:13 PM »

Quote from: "misterbrownstone"

dude i'm pretty sure there's a Guns N' Roses version where it's in standard tuning and the first 1/2 is the old band playing it live and the second 1/2 is the new band in the studio.

brianfantana · « **Reply #10 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:33:04 PM »

my bad broseph

cuddergnr · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:37:12 PM »

Quote from: "brianfantana"

my bad broseph

©GnrPersia · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:40:33 PM »

Quote from: "brianfantana"

dude im pretty sure that sweet child o mine in big daddy is a cheyrl crow cover

for your knowledge : Sweet Child O' Mine (Big Daddy version).mp3

Audio Source: cocksalad.com

©GnrPersia · « **Reply #13 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:46:01 PM »

Quote from: "Jason Lee"

I think that over the last 10 years or so Axl has changed his sound over and over again. That is one thing that makes his voice so special. All of the different styles that he can pull off. Im sure he has been able to make his voice sound different many times over the years. And so saying this I believe that he has all different styles covered. The reason for the change now is because of the poor reception he got in 02 for his voice. He has come back and sounds more raw and sleazy, its difficult because people like him to sound rough and raw, but they want him to hit the high notes too. He cant always do it,. Never has been able to. Sometimes yeah...and it is magic. That is one reason I think he is such a perfectionist in the studio. He wants to get the right vocal sound for the right song. And it cant always be done in one day. It may take days of screaming his ass off or something I dont know. Maybe not even talking for days and then working on something. His voice is definately fragile. It comes and goes very easily. I dont know...I'll shut up now. What do you think?

I'm somehow agree with your opinion about axl has all diff styles covered but I disagree about changing voice 'cause of '02 low reception from fans. Obviously at the time he had a problem regarding his voice. the proof is VMA 2002.

©GnrPersia · « **Reply #14 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:50:32 PM »

Quote from: "Gagarin"

Well, a few things:

- The Boston 2002 Promo had studio samples (seconds of them) from Chinese Democracy, Madagascar, The Blues and they had a soulful rasp.

- The ending of Rocket Queen on Live Era is a studio re-record from 1999 (no debates, please) and it doesn't really sound like 2002, it's high and pretty clean though.

- Sweet Child O Mine ending from Big Daddy credits is newer vocals and they sound like the Axl who is touring now.

- Anywhere else in Live Era that was redone and isn't as obvious, I don't know.

He's always had that voice in the studio but touring... and it started to pop up again in MSG 2002 if I am not mistaken.

Oxygen: one of the reasons that his voice is normal in studio works. and as you see he uses oxygen tanks on stage these days.

©GnrPersia · « **Reply #15 on:** August 13, 2006, 07:52:55 PM »

Quote from: "misterbrownstone"

he was probably not killing his voice on tour, but saving it for the album.

It's not reasonable in my opinion.

misterbrownstone · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2006, 08:27:48 PM »

Quote from: "Ã‚©GnrPersia"

It's not reasonable in my opinion.

why not? if he totally blew his voice on the tour, there'd be no album to promote.

Jason Lee · « **Reply #17 on:** August 13, 2006, 10:11:28 PM »

I dont know. We could argue for days. This is boring. Goodbye.

The Spaghetti Incident? · « **Reply #18 on:** August 14, 2006, 01:45:15 AM »

He's had the voice all along, IMO he was just trying something new in '02, perhaps because of the critics view on his voice etc. he reverted back to his raspy voice, and anyway, the Boston promo shows he was already planning on having a strong Axl-esque rasp for CD...

patbateman666 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 14, 2006, 03:18:00 AM »

it will be great when the album doesn't see light of day this year.

gg gnr! see ya in malibu axl!

The Spaghetti Incident? · « **Reply #20 on:** August 14, 2006, 03:28:52 AM »

You were raped by your father as a child huh? you seem to have lost the function to be optimistic unlike the rest of the board, do us all a favour, renew ties with your father and spend more of your time with him rather than wasting bandwidth here, because we don't your any extra pesimists in the GnR community, we got enough of them already, k?

©GnrPersia · « **Reply #21 on:** August 14, 2006, 04:34:17 AM »

Quote from: "The Spaghetti Incident?"

You were raped by your father as a child huh? you seem to have lost the function to be optimistic unlike the rest of the board, do us all a favour, renew ties with your father and spend more of your time with him rather than wasting space here, k?

Don't waste your time argue with kids bro.

muchtoohigh · « **Reply #22 on:** August 14, 2006, 05:09:15 AM »

Quote from: "brianfantana"

dude im pretty sure that sweet child o mine in big daddy is a cheyrl crow cover

dude ANCHORMAN is one of my favourite movies!

"its called the octagon"

oneAXLinamillion · « **Reply #23 on:** August 14, 2006, 05:23:41 AM »

I don't think that this is the reason for the delay.

gunner72 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 14, 2006, 06:33:06 AM »

i know the "delay" is based on how he scratched his arse that one day that one concert.....

benny112980 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 14, 2006, 09:15:06 AM »

The album will be out in November. There has been no more talk of any additional delays recently.

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