Theme and theory behind setlist regarding Illusion songs

[thesloth]

So far GnR has not played any songs that are co-written by Slash.  Only songs by either Rose or Izzy.  Since Izzy played a show over in Europe with GnR not to surprised by this.  So in staying with this theory.  Songs that have a chance of being played are:

1.  Don't Cry
2.  You aint the first
3.  Double talkin jive
4.  Dead Hourse
5.  Pretty Tied up
6.  Estranged
7.  My World

I do not have the cover for UYLII so might be a few I am missing.  Also Axl can prove me wrong by playing Perfect Crime Which was shown to be on a possible alt set list however until they play it on this tour my little old theory stand up...I  think

[Geck]

Yeah, I'm sure they'll play My World.  

[misterbrownstone]

who wrote Perfect Crime?

they've been practicing that one.

[gunner07]

Yeah, I'm sure they'll play My World.  

It'll be to Chris Pitman as Don't Cry is to Ron.    I'm dead serious, I actually want to know what a Chris Pitman version of My World would sound like.  He's a genius in the studio (the production on the Lusk album is incredible!) and I think could make My World something amazing.


That said, by your logic, Estranged shouldn't be considered, since Slash was thanked for the guitar melodies.  It's not exactly the same as a writing credit, but you can't deny that he did a masterful job in helping to shape that song.  Would want to hear what Guns N' Roses would do with Estranged now in 2006, though.  Knowing what these guys are capable of, it's a safe bet that Estranged would sound better than ever.

[thesloth]

who wrote Perfect Crime?

they've been practicing that one.

Slash was a a writer on perfect crime.  As I said in my post although they do have it as option they have yet to play it.

[misterbrownstone]

they will, they've played You're Crazy and Down on the Farm, and both were on taht setlist.  sorry, but i think your theory has gone down zee drain.

[Jerman]

So far GnR has not played any songs that are co-written by Slash.  Only songs by either Rose or Izzy.  Since Izzy played a show over in Europe with GnR not to surprised by this.  So in staying with this theory.  Songs that have a chance of being played are:

1.  Don't Cry
2.  You aint the first
3.  Double talkin jive
4.  Dead Hourse
5.  Pretty Tied up
6.  Estranged
7.  My World

I do not have the cover for UYLII so might be a few I am missing.  Also Axl can prove me wrong by playing Perfect Crime Which was shown to be on a possible alt set list however until they play it on this tour my little old theory stand up...

      !!!
i think you know shit about who wrote something or who didn't!!!

[guns 'n roses]

they've played don't cry in belgium (graspop)

[sweetbreakdown]

I don't think it has something to do with Slash because there are songs from Appetite that Slash co-wrote too.

[monom]

Dude they've played it everywhere, But it was just Ron who was soloing on it...Axl hasn't sung it, nor have the band played it together live...

[Auri-rubigo]

This sucks.

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

It'll be to Chris Pitman as Don't Cry is to Ron.    I'm dead serious, I actually want to know what a Chris Pitman version of My World would sound like.  He's a genius in the studio (the production on the Lusk album is incredible!) and I think could make My World something amazing.


That said, by your logic, Estranged shouldn't be considered, since Slash was thanked for the guitar melodies.  It's not exactly the same as a writing credit, but you can't deny that he did a masterful job in helping to shape that song.  Would want to hear what Guns N' Roses would do with Estranged now in 2006, though.  Knowing what these guys are capable of, it's a safe bet that Estranged would sound better than ever.

Can't wait for an Axl interview in which he confirms the theory that, Axl, being the dictator he is, actually choreographed/composed those solo's.

[RocketGuns]

they will, they've played You're Crazy and Down on the Farm, and both were on taht setlist.  sorry, but i think your theory has gone down zee drain.

ur probably right

btw, on almost every forum I come I see the avatar you have, a lot of people seem to use it. whats so nice about it? i always try to avoid looking at the damn thing,...i wonder what twisted mind made it    

[Paul Riff]

lol...
I was just wondering about these theories and since they played new songs, maybe they can use the options on the setlist now because they'are more confidents.
It would be cool to listen to the old version of Knockin' On Heavens' Door too. I understand that they're tryin' to get closer to Dylans', but I really like the GNR way on this one. :crybaby:

[halford]

after the concert  of 3rd nov.,  i think the setlist finally gets a bit more exciting.......the cd gets closer each day and i cant wait to have NICE BOYS played........i think they should cut down on the solos, but with 3 guitarists each must have one i guess, but it really slows down the pace. Which might be needed to do on some point, but i think its only one more excuse for Axl to go backstage.

[bumbleslash]

well on the topic, i'll post my theroy.

The reason their's not much UYI songs is... because their not touring that album. Usualy 5 Chinese Democacy songs are played (Blues, Better, IRS, CD, and Maddy). So in reality their setlist does consist of the more *popular* UYI songs (NR, YCBM, LALD, KOHD, Dont Cry(solo)). Plus the added keyboard and guitar solo and the CD songs mentioned. That's 7 UYI song's that would be played if they were touring that album. Also with *option* songs like UTLH, Rocket Queen, DOWN ON THE FUCKING FARM... you know song's that are usualy on the setlist like once a week. So if they had UYI Options like they do (perfect crime) we come up with around a possibility of having about 10 UYI songs added. Because though, their no longer touring UYI their not going to play it's depth and make room for CD tracks.

[Auri-rubigo]

Because the older songs,after a while,after hearing them for so many times,start to suck.THE END.

[DemolitionRock77]

If I remember correctly, Axl has ownership of all works by GNR. Therefore he has a right to play any song he wants to. And as someone else said, pretty much all of the AFD songs were co-written by the old band.

[marshall175]

stupid ass theory

what about Appetite songs??

plus, Slash was thanked for hid guitar parts on Estranged

[thesloth]

For Estranged Slash was not given writer credit that I could find however even if you remove estranged.  Of the UYI songs the new GnR has not played any songs that have Slash having credit for those songs I posted.

2nd I was not aware AFD was part of the UYI series

Down on the fucking farm was not written by GnR for fucks sakes so why even bring that up.

As I stated I do not have the UYI2 CD cover so the information I got about writer credit for estranged came from the net so may not be correct.

This would have nothing to do with what Axl has the rights to it has to do with what he is willing to play.  So far he has not played any UYI songs that have Slash as co-writer.  

Don't Cry slash didn't fucking write so not sure why that was mentioned.

As I stated in the begining this is a theory based on what GnR has played.    

I just found it interesting and figured I would post it as a theory

[halford]

he doesnt need ownership to play those songs,  what drug are you on......but he has all the rights, thats true.........if youd need ownership to play a song live, haha, no cover versions would be played , ever........

[jungledemocracy]

has axl sang Dont Cry at all since shannon hoon died? I saw GnR at donnington n at sheffield n was bummed not to hear it, its easily one of their best songs. Did they play it during the 2001/2002 tour?

[Auri-rubigo]

My theory: This sucks.

[thesloth]

My theory: This sucks.

This coming from you is a compliment thanks.