"I believe in Israel "

[ageisler18]

I agree this is a bit over the top, but this is something that certainly shouldn't be ignored.  I realize that air strikes will 99% of the time prevent them from ever having nukes but, they are incredible close to having the technology and being able to sell it.  Iran is comprised of some crazzyyy mother fuckers as with most of the middle east.  I can't understand their fucking religion as hard  as I try.  It doesn't say anything about not co-existing.  I'd blow away all the fundamentalist if I could.

[MetaSouL]

Apparenty someone has forgotten that Israel is the 5th largest nuclear power in the world and has defied UN Security Council resolutions for years that have instructed them to leave the illigally occupied territory of the West Bank and Gaza.  No wonder Iran wants to protect itself.  You don't see the USA invading and pressing for sanctions on Israel for the miraculous "nuclear free Middle East" now do you?

~M

[Slashist]

Apparenty someone has forgotten that Israel is the 5th largest nuclear power in the world and has defied UN Security Council resolutions for years that have instructed them to leave the illigally occupied territory of the West Bank and Gaza.  No wonder Iran wants to protect itself.  You don't see the USA invading and pressing for sanctions on Israel for the miraculous "nuclear free Middle East" now do you?

~M

Israel has a policy of Nuclear ambiguity, they aren't technically a nuclear power.  

the simple fact is that all the surrounding middle eastern nations closed their borders to palestinian refugees, and they are content to use palestine as a political issue, instead of helping the situation.  Iran, syria etc. are content to sell the palestinians weapons, effectively using them as pawns in a political battle, Iranian and Syrian lives are not being lost, its the palestinians being sacrificed.

[mjc3474]

Is this a tad bit over the top?
I mean Bush is one of the biggest terrorists in the planet. He's been wiping out Afgans and Iraquis ever since he got elected. If anything, he's the next fuckin Hitler.
90% of the problems in the world are due to the main powers like USA (currently) and GB (in the past)
I think Bush may have learnt his leason with the Iraq thing though, I'm sure he'll think twice before invading a country for oil

that is one fucked up delusional statement. While Bush hasn't been a good president (neither was Clinton) he isn't a terrorist and he certainly isn't the next hitler!! the problems today are caused by the war over the holy lands in the middle east not the US (even if bush didn't invade Iraq the iran problem would still arise) it is scary to think Iran will have nuclear capibilities soon.  I agree that action against Iran must be taken.  Liberals will ruin this country it's so soft nowadays.

[Slashist]

  Liberals will ruin this country it's so soft nowadays.

there's no reason that democrats can't be tough on defence.  by saying that liberals are soft and will ruin the counry you are just buying into the partisan politics pushed by the right.  and the democrats play the same partisan bullshit with the republicans, trying to make people scared of what they will do to personal rights.  

seems to me the last strong american wartime president was FDR, a social liberal, and democrat, and don't forget truman and the A-bomb.

its partisan politics from both sides that threatens to ruin the country.  a common sense centerist party is what is needed.

[High'N'Dry]

YOU STUPID WORTHLESS FAT JEWISH RACIST BITCH
yOU KNOW NOTHING YOU STUPID PIG
GO WATCH THE NEWS AS MANY PALISITIAN INOOCENT MEN THAT ISREAL STOLE THERE LAND AND KILLED THEM EVERYDY , EVEYRDAY THERE WAS A MAN INA WHEEL CHAIR WHO HAD A FUCKING ROCKET FIRED AT HIM U DUMB BITCH , WHAT ABOUT THAT?
yOU SPAKRED WAR THIS SUMMER AND ACTUALLY LOST YOUR ASS AND TO WHOM IS DEFENDING HIS LAND WICH U CALL TERRORISM
IN THE END POEPLE LIKE YOU TAKIN EVERYTHING THEY CAN JUST BECAUSE OF A MYTH U CALL THE HOLOCAUST , MAKING POEPLE FEEL LIKE THEY CANT TALK BECAUSE " WE SLAYED YOUR ASS" WICH DIDINT HAPPEN PROBABLY BUT IOF IT DID THATS WHAT UR DOING IN PALESTINE AND LEBANON , SO GO STUFF UR FASTASS BITCH WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE
AND IM NOT AN IRAN SYMPAYTHISER , IM JUT HUMAN .

[AxlRoseCalifornia]

iran is not a terrorist country....
im from europe and i recognize that... Bush is more of a criminal than the guy in Iran...
the guy in Iran just doesnt want any talks with the US... cause of the poor politics the US represent right now....
the letter he sent to bush and the american people have a lot of truth in it...
now on the other hand the korean, i would worry about him...
im european and live in the US and i know when to admit when we're wrong...
Bush needs to get out... and i hope they find out how corrupt he is so he can go to jail....

but then again... in the US justice is not equal for everyone... u got michael jackson going outta country and not being arrested... Oj Simpson.... even ex-President Nixon that was more than proved that he should have lived the rest of his life in jail...

[AxlRoseCalifornia]

high and dry! ur absolutely right!
i mean i have a lot of friends that are jewish and they're great... always telling jokes... jewish people were born to be actors, actresses, movie producers and stand up comedy guys
and as much as i love that! what ur saying is exactly true!!
Palestina was there first! Israel stole their land!
and they're killing millions of palestinians in their own land cause they dont want them in they're own land...

they build walls for them to not even enter israel( how racist is that?!) and the funny thing is.. no one cares or does anything about it...

 and why? because stupid christians are all afraid they destroy the place where jesus was born... bla bla... and the holy spirits and this and that....
bla bla bla...

wake up people!!
God might exist but religion is the fakest thing there is on earth!! and if u agree with people getting killed just because of a shitty big book call the bible, that some crazy priest that was prolly on drugs wrote....ur no better then HELL!!
how can u trade millions of people lives for a book??

do u have any proof god had anything to do with that book??
do u have any proof that that book is not a fake ass thing written by a priest who wanted to know more than other people or who was simply crazy?

please.... believing in god is ok! i mean... we dunno... but at least we know that someone had to put us here.... but in case u didnt notice god wasnt alive when the bible was written... so... basically like in maddy... this all thing is fucked up..... :angry:  

[AxlRoseCalifornia]

and Axl is right! israel should exist as a state.... but not as a country.. the country name is Palestina...
Palestinians were robbed of their land  by israel.... they never said no to an israel state...
the problem was Israel didnt want only a state they wanted to be THE COUNTRY.... thats why war and hate started between those countries...

and george w. bush... he's not even good for the republicans... he's the worst president of the US history....
and this war in Iraq was the worst mistake since vietnam and cuba...

[gnraus]

MYTH U CALL THE HOLOCAUST whatever high'n'dry.  it happened are you in denial about it and the jews make it up for sympathy..  whatever.... I agree that Iran must be watched i noticed this about a year ago.. What i can't belive is George Bush is in control of the most powerful nation on this earth.  Watch him try answer a question not rehearsed he's like ooooh ooooohh and then spits out some crap.  He's never alway been religious, he says he turned to god, after been an alchololic.  That explains why he is brain dead.  The real reason is to win votes from all the brain washed Americans.   The good old wholesome bible " shalt not kill" fucken whatever. here's some verses from the holly bible        

Joshua 6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
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Joshua 8:24 And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword.
Joshua 8:25 And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, even all the men of Ai.
Joshua 8:26 For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai.

No one can argue with this its in the "Bible"

[sunnyp]

Only about one fifth of the people that died in the holocaust were Jewish. The facts have been skewed and it seems to me that this makes people more sympathetic towards Jewish people. When you say the word holocaust we automatically associate it with Jews but this is factually incorrect.

I am not denying that a lot of Jews died in the holocaust, the holocaust itself was probably one of the darkest periods in the history of mankind, however most of the victims of the holocaust were gypsies, poles, homosexuals, anybody that didn't fit into the Aeryan (?) ideology, as well as Jews.

Let us not forget those unknown souls.

[RyanRose]

Let us not forget those unknown souls.

Off topic but we also must never the unknown soldier

http://www.westminster-abbey.org/library/burial/warrior.htm

[Sean]

Good thread... I actually read all your responses !!  Now no more name calling..

and yes, should have been in 'The Green Room'

........

-BP

[lilwing]

hahahah you are funny !
The problem my friend is Jihad which Osama declared when
Clinton was in office and everything was hunky dory in the
world. So Clinton wanted us to believe. Anywhore,
Saddam had to go, I could not EVEN imagine the world with him in
power. I am sure Israel feels some comfort with him out of there
too, Afterall he was paying suicide bombers families.
Oh well its nice to know we have Axl on OUR side..

I don't find it funny that some wanker is invading somebody elses fuckin country for oil, maybe you do.
There are many more countries than Iraq and Afganistan in the world that have evil dictators, look how Bush, as well as not giving a shit, makes money  out of them (they call it 3rd world debt)
You're trying to be serious about Israel but laugh at other types of terrorism, you're a fuckin hypocrit

I don't know where to start........shit, you're not worth it. I don't mean to condescend, but you must be like 13 .....?..? Maybe I'll come back and respond to this later.