GnR Guitarist Comparisons

[PaoloGNR]

cant compare any of these guitarists cause everyone of them are great and different in their own way.

we had a discussion on another thread of comparing sorum to stadler to brain to frank.....same thing

all unique and different

[Downloading_Man]

Slash -> for all the old songs except...

Buckethead -> Nightrain, KOHD, Chi Dem

I like a lot of Ron's stuff, but he just puts to much into it. He needs to take a note from people like George Harrison and John Squire, and slow down.

Frantic solos full of short, seemingly random beeps...well they suck.

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

November Rain Outro - well, Slash killed that on the Live Era version, Ron's tone was horrible there, tapping overkill as well, so Slash, although where was Bucket for that one? He owned it pretty badly as well

That's what I was thinking, I mean, couldn't you have at least added the RIR3 version..? Finck on first two and Bucket on finale..

[Slipdisc]

That rules goes to every guitarist. There are no arguments against it. It's not even opinion it's fact, they hold the emotion of which the song was written, they play it how they felt.

Emotion is a subjective internal experience and music is art which always is ONLY about interpretation. There are NO facts in art, ONLY opinions, where emotion is only reflective of how something positions itself witin your own set of criteria of what emotion is (there’s no argument against it).

Now back to the discussion in a more general context. I find it rather disappointing to see that all the Slash clips clearly and unquestionably (made obvious by the clarity of Axl’s voice and other instruments) stem from higher quality recordings than some (no not all) of the other tidbits. It (un)consciously adds to the entire experience of Slash’s soloing. Anywayz all of this aside, I think that Buckethead and Ron truly stood out with more interesting/tasteful phrasing, more technical diversity and the cleanest and most able executions. Between these two I would have to give Ron the edge for taking it all to an even slightly higher level than Buckethead. It’s pretty lame to point Slash out as the better one, no matter what, JUST BECAUSE he was there when the material was created. It’s a draw of the cheap and easy nostalgia card. Off course an artist can channel significant, authentic emotion in the context of music they didn’t write themselves. Especially when they gave their own spin to their own contributions. In the end this whole thing is just about interpretation, which means that there are no rights, wrongs or ultimate truths. Just be glad that the material has been interpreted by so many great diverse players that there's something for everybody's taste.

-PEACE-

[Malakian]

Emotion is a subjective internal experience and music is art which always is ONLY about interpretation. There are NO facts in art, ONLY opinions, where emotion is only reflective of how something positions itself witin your own set of criteria of what emotion is (there’s no argument against it).

I was talking about how the guitarist plays it, not how the listener feels when they hear it.

[Slipdisc]

I was talking about how the guitarist plays it, not how the listener feels when they hear it.

Well, for you to able to discuss/reflect on how they play it, you first must hear it and let it run through your personal filter ... ladies and gentlemen I give you: interpretation. You weren't discussing mere technicalities when you said "they hold the emotion of which the song was written, they play it how they felt", you are qualifying their intend, their emotion by interpretation. Like we all do, by the way.... I was merely pointing out the absence of facts and ultimate truths in music.

-PEACE-

[Malakian]

Well, for you to able to discuss/reflect on how they play it, you first must hear it and let it run through your personal filter ... ladies and gentlemen I give you: interpretation. You weren't discussing mere technicalities when you said "they hold the emotion of which the song was written, they play it how they felt", you are qualifying their intend, their emotion by interpretation. Like we all do, by the way.... I was merely pointing out the absence of facts and ultimate truths in music.

-PEACE-

I don't know what emotion they have, I can't and neither can anyone else, that's why they play it best. They play it with emotion, it might sound better to certain people if someone else played it, that i agree is opinion, but they will never play it the best because they can't capture the emotion.

Is what i mean.

[darcycudmore]

Im gonna sound stupid here but atsokay.

Did the New Guns Do Appetite over?

and if So do people have it? the tunes?  Cause that robin finck mr brownstone sounded studio haha.

[Slashist]

Im gonna sound stupid here but atsokay.

Did the New Guns Do Appetite over?

and if So do people have it? the tunes?  Cause that robin finck mr brownstone sounded studio haha.

yes the rerecorded it, a long time ago.  we haven't heard it, and i'm sure we never will, nor should we.  there are a ton of topics about it kicking around here somewhere

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

PurpleHaze, buddy ol' pal, can you please upload the '02 performance of Knockin' On Heavens Door that you took Buckethead's solo from, please? I LOVE that solo...

[zombux]

PurpleHaze, buddy ol' pal, can you please upload the '02 performance of Knockin' On Heavens Door that you took Buckethead's solo from, please? I LOVE that solo...

try search at youtube, maybe you'll find it

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

Awww, but then I gotta download the whole shibang!

What show was it exactly? I want that exact performance lol.

[UcudBmine]

Bucket and Slash both suck playing the NR outro..

I love this outro:


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYI8RGqN98A[/youtube]

[teddyzigzag]

this is really subjective, they are all good guitarsts

I think this is going to be a very unpopular opinion but……

Slash is GNR, his soulful bluesy playing is what got me interested in Guns N’ Roses. The only player I have ever found more interesting to listen to is Jimmy Page.  
 
I really like Thal, he is a great guy and technically he is better than Slash but sometimes his work ends up sounding like a technical demonstration and not part of the original song.

In my Opinion (this is going to be unpopular!) Finck doesn’t even play in the same league as the above two, I have seen him live and he makes too many fluffed sounding notes, to me some of what he plays doesn’t sound different (which is cool) it just sounds wrong.

Buckethead is technically amazing but I don’t think The Munster incarnation of Finck and Bucket did much for Guns public image.

The real test is going to be when we can go in to HMV and buy a copy of the new album, lots of guitarists can read GNR tabs but not many can compose some of the most killer music ever heard (AFD, UYI 1&2 etc).

The topic is extremely subjective!