Saddam Hussein Executed In Iraq

[ruthie]

how the hell have you only just found out????  :eek:  


Its been a month already, and its quite possibly the most important happening of 2006!

i don't have a tv, i don't read the papers (i believe they're full of sh*t anyway) and i guess no one told me!!

[PurpleHaze]

Because america are the worlds cleaners we cleanse the unclean.

I like that sentence. It sounds really ethnic cleansing esque. Hitler would have said something like that.

So yeah, who defines what is "clean" and "unclean" you genocidal maniac?

[lilwing]

1. http://www.cubaminrex.cu/English/Focus_On/terrorism_summary%20of%20main%20terrorist%20actions%20against%20cuba.asp

^the tip of the ice-berg regarding known terrorist activities supported by the US government in Cuba, have a look around the net and see the number of known terrorists who've taken up residence in Florida

2.http://www.mediamonitors.net/michaelsladah&suleimaniajlouni1.html

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_North_Korea

4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Peace_Theory

but hey, who cares about the facts?

The freedom fighters supported by the US in Cuba are fighting the enemies of freedom. US troops in Iraq are fighting the enemies of freedom. There is no moral equivalence between the terrorists in Iraq and the freedom fighters in Cuba.

[nemo]

The freedom fighters supported by the US in Cuba are fighting the enemies of freedom. US troops in Iraq are fighting the enemies of freedom. There is no moral equivalence between the terrorists in Iraq and the freedom fighters in Cuba.

yes there is, neither of them are fighting the enemies of freedom, the difference is one of them is fighting America and the other is fighting the enemies of America.  You can't label one group terrorists and the other freedom fighters simply because you don't believe in one of their causes, both groups believe they're fighting for what's right, it's just that one of them doesn't happen to fit with what merica has decided is best for the world, or (in this case regarding the terrorists attacking Cuba) its own interests.

[sunnyp]

What is it with some Americans.

Do you actually have a wider vocabulary than just 'freedom, citizens, god, veterans, rights, terrorism etc'. If you scratch below the surface you will find a whole world of US sponsored shit that will make you think again about your self righteousness..... That is unless you are in denial, but then again to be in denial you must be aware of all of the facts.

Why is it that your interpretation of the Gulf War sounds like some poor hollywood script where the evil terrorists that oppose all things good are gonna blow up America unless Max Freedom can liberate them.

To all the people this applies to, you need to wake the fuck up and start looking at the real facts and appreciate the complexity of this situation. This is real life, its about money and oil and not freedom versus liberation. Incase you hadn't noticed this war aint exactly cheap y'know and you never get something for free.

[lilwing]

yes there is, neither of them are fighting the enemies of freedom, the difference is one of them is fighting America and the other is fighting the enemies of America.  You can't label one group terrorists and the other freedom fighters simply because you don't believe in one of their causes, both groups believe they're fighting for what's right, it's just that one of them doesn't happen to fit with what merica has decided is best for the world, or (in this case regarding the terrorists attacking Cuba) its own interests.

Communism is the enemy of freedom. Islamic Fascism is the enemy of freedom. Hitler and stalin thought they were fighting for what was right. America has decided that the tyrannical rule of evil dictators and islamic jihadists is a bad thing. By it's very nature, you can't impose liberty. We believe in restoring the natural state of human freedom.

[sunnyp]

Communism is the enemy of freedom. Islamic Fascism is the enemy of freedom. Hitler and stalin thought they were fighting for what was right. America has decided that the tyrannical rule of evil dictators and islamic jihadists is a bad thing. By it's very nature, you can't impose liberty. We believe in restoring the natural state of human freedom.

Occupying a nation is the opposite to freedom too.

Imposing your will upon the people of another country is not freedom.

Restricting civil liberties for suspected terrorists is not freedom.

[UcudBmine]

he's dead?

But I saw him on southpark last night.

[RKD]

he's dead?

But I saw him on southpark last night.

and where was he in South Park? hes satan's bitch, amazing how matt and trey forsaw what was gonna happen  

[Slashist]

Communism is the enemy of freedom. Islamic Fascism is the enemy of freedom. Hitler and stalin thought they were fighting for what was right. America has decided that the tyrannical rule of evil dictators and islamic jihadists is a bad thing. By it's very nature, you can't impose liberty. We believe in restoring the natural state of human freedom.

unbelievable.
Communism is not the enemy of freedom, communism was created to free the peasant classes from oppression, Stalin was an "enemy of freedom", but not communism in general.  And the Islamists aren't Facists, in fact they have almost nothing in common with facists.  Also, remember that Stalin was allied against Hitler, with the U.S.  

Anyways, its not america's job to be the world's police force, more often than not it makes things much worse.  (e.g. Chile, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq) in fact in many cases it has been america supporting tyrannical dictators against the will of the people, like Pinochet in Chile, or Saddam throughout the 80's.

[lilwing]

unbelievable.
Communism is not the enemy of freedom, communism was created to free the peasant classes from oppression, Stalin was an "enemy of freedom", but not communism in general.  And the Islamists aren't Facists, in fact they have almost nothing in common with facists.  Also, remember that Stalin was allied against Hitler, with the U.S.  

Anyways, its not america's job to be the world's police force, more often than not it makes things much worse.  (e.g. Chile, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq) in fact in many cases it has been america supporting tyrannical dictators against the will of the people, like Pinochet in Chile, or Saddam throughout the 80's.

In theory the purpose of communism was to save people from poverty, but in practice it has been historically proven to enslave people, make them completely dependent on corrupt governments and sentence them to a lifetime of poverty. The people we are fighting in iraq believe if you are not a muslim and do not practice islam in the same way they do, then you must die. That sounds like fascism to me. As far as US allies in WW2, lets say we didn't ally with stalin, how long should that war have lasted? Should Hitler have won? Would the world be a better place if germany had won the war? IT may not be our responibility to police the world, but when islamic FASCISTS, like the ones we are fighting in Iraq, attack us, we will respond.

[sunnyp]

In theory the purpose of communism was to save people from poverty, but in practice it has been historically proven to enslave people, make them completely dependent on corrupt governments and sentence them to a lifetime of poverty. The people we are fighting in iraq believe if you are not a muslim and do not practice islam in the same way they do, then you must die. That sounds like fascism to me. As far as US allies in WW2, lets say we didn't ally with stalin, how long should that war have lasted? Should Hitler have won? Would the world be a better place if germany had won the war? IT may not be our responibility to police the world, but when islamic FASCISTS, like the ones we are fighting in Iraq, attack us, we will respond.

Dude, make your mind up. On one hand you are asking whether fascist Germany would have made the world a better place, but accusing Islamic fascists of being evil. Surely if you are an enemy of fascism then both of these are equal evils.

What right do you have to impose your nation's will upon other people? Regime change is manipulation which is a form of control, which in itself is fascism just as much as the form you identified.

REMEMBER: Any link between Taleban forces loyal to Bin Laden that attacked US soil have nothing to do with Iraq, Colin Powell admitted that before he left. The only place you are being attacked is in Iraq, because you have invaded their territory.

Anyway, it's plain to see that you are losing this war, and lots of Americans will have died for that same ideology that you stubbornly cling to. When you do fianlly lose you will realise it is for nothing but bullshit.