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North Korea Disarms
« on: February 13, 2007, 05:58:56 PM »
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By Jack Kim and Chris Buckley

BEIJING (Reuters) - North Korea agreed on Tuesday to take steps toward nuclear disarmament in exchange for $300 million in aid under a deal President George W. Bush hailed as the best chance to get it to scrap its atomic weapons program.

The landmark agreement, reached four months after Pyongyang stunned the world with its first nuclear test, requires the secretive communist state to shut down the reactor at the heart of its nuclear ambitions and allow international inspections.

But the accord also calls for concessions by the United States toward economically impoverished North Korea, which Bush once lumped together with Iran and Iraq as an "axis of evil."

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The United States and Japan agreed to discuss normalizing ties with North Korea, something it had long sought. Washington also said it would resolve within 30 days a dispute over frozen North Korean bank accounts in Macau, and consider removing Pyongyang from a list of state sponsors of terrorism.

The plan hammered out in Beijing by the two Koreas, the United States, Japan, Russia and China after nearly a week of talks will only mark the starting point for locating and dismantling North Korea's nuclear projects, leaving many questions to future negotiations.

"These talks represent the best opportunity to use diplomacy to address North Korea's nuclear programs," Bush said in a statement released by the White House. "They reflect the common commitment of the participants to a Korean Peninsula that is free of nuclear weapons."

He acknowledged, however, that Tuesday's deal represented only a "first step," and White House spokesman Tony Snow warned Pyongyang it still faces sanctions if it reneges.


U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Iran, another country at loggerheads with the West over its nuclear program, should see North Korea as an example.

"Why should it not be seen as a message to Iran that the international community is able to bring together its resources?" she asked at a news conference.

MULTILATERAL APPROACH

The deal came after a U.S. administration known for a go-it-alone style in world affairs decided to take a more multilateral approach toward North Korea, largely by drawing in China to apply pressure as Pyongyang's major trading partner.

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Some Bush advisers had argued in favor of squeezing North Korea to the point of economic collapse, but China, along with South Korea, feared that could bring waves of refugees.

The Bush administration, which had demanded a verifiable suspension of North Korea's nuclear activities before agreeing to aid, softened its stance and agreed to a process including discussions of removing U.S. trade sanctions.

Bush has been determined to achieve progress on North Korea as he struggles with an unpopular war in Iraq, Iran's nuclear challenge and a domestic agenda threatened by a newly Democratic-led Congress.

Chief U.S. negotiator Christopher Hill and North Korean envoy Kim Kye-gwan warmly shook hands and patted one another's arms during a closing reception in Beijing.   

Pyongyang's official KCNA news agency said the other parties decided to offer economic and energy aid equivalent to one million tonnes of heavy oil in connection with North Korea's "temporary" suspension of the operation of its nuclear facilities.

Hill dismissed that report. "Any action to restart the reactors would be a violation of the agreement," he said.

Japan, which has voiced doubt that any agreement could be made to stick, said it will not join in giving aid to North Korea because of past abductions of its nationals by Pyongyang's agents.

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The deal says North Korea must take steps to shut down its main nuclear reactor within 60 days. In return, it will receive 50,000 tonnes of fuel oil or economic aid of equal value.

The North will receive another 950,000 tonnes of fuel oil or equivalent when it takes further steps to disable its nuclear capabilities. The fuel would be worth around $300 million at current prices.

The deal faces a tricky path to fruition amid profound distrust between North Korea and its would-be donors.

North Korea stepped down the path to nuclear disarmament before, in a 1994 agreement with the Clinton administration that collapsed in 2002 after Washington accused Pyongyang of seeking to produce weapons-grade uranium.

The United States maintains some 30,000 troops on the Korean peninsula, which has remained in a technical state of war since the 1950-53 Korean War truce.

China welcomed the agreement. But at the United Nations in New York, China's deputy UN ambassador, Liu Zhenmin, was asked if Beijing would push for the lifting of UN sanctions against North Korea. "No it won't push for that, it will push for progress in the six party talks," he told reporters.

(Additional reporting by Teruaki Ueno, Ben Blanchard, Nick Macfie, Lindsay Beck and Ian Ransom in Beijing and Matt Spetalnick, Steve Holland, Tabassum Zakaria and Sue Pleming in Washington and Evelyn Leopold at the United Nations)

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Re: North Korea Disarms
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2007, 06:10:44 PM »
You see George? You don't have to bomb countries to fuck, conquer them and install new governments to get them to come around to your way of thinking (or not as the case may be in Iraq). This way works too!

If only you realised this a few years ago you dumb fuck!
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Re: North Korea Disarms
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2007, 08:25:10 PM »
wow!

i'm impressed!  Georgey did something good for a change!
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Re: North Korea Disarms
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2007, 08:31:32 PM »
Iran would have given them more than 300 mil.
idiots

300 mil, cant buy a thing for a country of that size...
they could have at least gone for a few billion,
after all bush spends 100s of billion in iraq...
giving 300 mil is peanuts.

and think of the asswhopping US would get if they invade nkorea.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2007, 08:33:04 PM by Lucky »
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Re: North Korea Disarms
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2007, 08:36:00 PM »
Kim Jong Il would have made kim il sung proud today.  I'm pretty sure he didn't have any intentions of bombing anywhere because he knew he'd get fucked.  He waved his weapons around like a two year old tested once under ground and got 300 Million Dollars....

*Ageisler18 applauds you(You crazy son of a bitch)*


On the good side Bush has lifted a weight of almost everyones shoulders I think by doing this.  I do think it was nessecary to do something and I'm happy to have resolved this peacefully.

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2007, 06:57:28 AM »
As much as I would like to give credit to the Bush administration for disarming NK, I know that you can't make deals with people like that. This is only buying time. It was a good idea to bring Japan and china in on it so they can handle it when it gets out of control.

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Re: North Korea Disarms
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2007, 07:53:36 AM »
wow!

i'm impressed!  Georgey did something good for a change!

maybe he finally saw the error of his ways.... shame it took thousands of death to realise it but still.....

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« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2007, 07:59:26 AM »
It is good that there are less nuclear weapons in the world.

This proves Condoleeza Rice is a moron regarding what she said about Iran. Incase she hadn't noticed NK has a nuke and Iran doesn't. Is she suggesting Iran risk a war with the US over getting a bomb only to enter proliferation talks for aid donations....... A truly idiotic thing to suggest.
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« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2007, 09:21:59 AM »
It is good that there are less nuclear weapons in the world.

This proves Condoleeza Rice is a moron regarding what she said about Iran. Incase she hadn't noticed NK has a nuke and Iran doesn't. Is she suggesting Iran risk a war with the US over getting a bomb only to enter proliferation talks for aid donations....... A truly idiotic thing to suggest.
NK isn't supplying arms to terrorists in Iraq. NK and Iran want nukes for completely different reasons. Iran wants a nuke to destroy Israel and western interests. NK wants a bomb as a negotiating tool. Kim jung il is nuts and he can't be trusted with nukes, but he isn't collaborating with the enemy we are currently at war with. Iran is already at war with america. They fund our enemies. 
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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2007, 10:10:03 AM »
NK isn't supplying arms to terrorists in Iraq. NK and Iran want nukes for completely different reasons. Iran wants a nuke to destroy Israel and western interests. NK wants a bomb as a negotiating tool. Kim jung il is nuts and he can't be trusted with nukes, but he isn't collaborating with the enemy we are currently at war with. Iran is already at war with america. They found our enemies. 


Kim Jong Ill clearly isn't nuts and can be trusted because he has just signed this deal.

America supplies weapons to Israel which it uses to kill women and children in Palestine, at least when Iraqi's use Iran's weapons they are killing legal combatants and not women and children.

You can paint it however you want, using whatever words and phrases you want, but at the end of the day America are the ones manipulating the courses of governments through threats of violence and intimidation, which is by definition Terrorism according to the 2001 Terrorist Act.
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Re: North Korea Disarms
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2007, 11:02:43 AM »
Kim Jong Ill clearly isn't nuts and can be trusted because he has just signed this deal.

Whoa back it up there.  I believe that this might mean he is not nuts but remember back in, oh..... I don't remember exactly when but we lent our support to Kim Jong Il where he said that he simply wanted nuclear power plants and in exchange he will stop being a pain in our asses.  Hence..... this notion gave birth to the nuclear program we know today in North Korea.  He simply just did the opposite of what he said.  I believe the multilateraly approach is a great step into suppressing him being a psycho, however.  I'm not looking to Burn you, or prove your wrong, just adding the missing the piece of the puzzle here.

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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2007, 11:09:05 AM »
Kim Jong Ill clearly isn't nuts
Those sound like famous last words. Have you ever looked at his bio?

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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 11:26:07 AM »
We may consider his style of leadership as extreme, and Western media may paint him as a lunatic because then it is easier to support military action in the future. I look at it like this: Is it any coincidence that the two nations most recently associated with nuclear weapons both have leaders that are made out to be lunatics by Western media? I dont think so. 

Just because someone decides to rule in a way that is different to how we are governed, it doesn't make them a nutter. There isn't a handbook on how to rule a country. 
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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2007, 07:58:51 AM »
my mom works for an organisation called CSw and there are endless reports from peole who have escaped sayin that north korea has death camps for christians and all sorts of horrid shit goes on, i went to one of her seminars and there was this woman all scarred givin a testimony about it, i feel so bad for the peole there if its true
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 12:07:32 AM »
We may consider his style of leadership as extreme, and Western media may paint him as a lunatic because then it is easier to support military action in the future. I look at it like this: Is it any coincidence that the two nations most recently associated with nuclear weapons both have leaders that are made out to be lunatics by Western media? I dont think so. 

Just because someone decides to rule in a way that is different to how we are governed, it doesn't make them a nutter. There isn't a handbook on how to rule a country. 

2 things bro (or sis)

1. Nuclear weapons and WMDs are horrible and should be being gotten rid of NOT sought after.  Kim Jong Il has desperately been wanting one.  Did you forget the fact that he tried to test one this past summer?  That alone is scary.  Nukes are not something we need on Earth.  Even if he is more like a 4 year old trying to show off his dick to everyone with that one test, it still shows he's been working on nukes and he needed to be dealt with diplomatically, and if that didn't work, then with strategic airstrikes.

2. are you a fucking dictator apologist/communist or something?



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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 12:25:37 AM »
2 things bro (or sis)

1. Nuclear weapons and WMDs are horrible and should be being gotten rid of NOT sought after.  Kim Jong Il has desperately been wanting one.  Did you forget the fact that he tried to test one this past summer?  That alone is scary.  Nukes are not something we need on Earth.  Even if he is more like a 4 year old trying to show off his dick to everyone with that one test, it still shows he's been working on nukes and he needed to be dealt with diplomatically, and if that didn't work, then with strategic airstrikes.

2. are you a fucking dictator apologist/communist or something?
there is a theory that he developed nuclear weapons just so he could give them up.  its like an investment.  put millions into developing them, and then get paid 100's of millions by other countries to give them up.  and thats exactly what happened

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Re: North Korea Disarms
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2007, 05:51:34 PM »
If he feels hes being threatendoffcourse he will make nukes.
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north korea, will be bombed  by the southern korean goverment end of story.
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