Author Topic: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?  (Read 2358 times)

Offline GNRForever10

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 People keep saying this is some reference to John Lennon but Axl is not that simple! He is a genius at writing intricate metaphoric lyrics with some heart to it and this song is obviously have to do with Rape no doubt about it,

Sometimes when I see his face I wish I had a gun? Basically reverting back to some memories as a child and trying to put that picture out of his head. I guarantee whatever Catcher may be labeled it is truly in Axl's mind a song about RAPE!

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 04:31:52 PM »
Read about J.D. Salinger who wrote catcher in the rye.  he's a famous recluse and hasn't even given an interview since 1980 or published a new work since 1965.  you might see some parallels between him an axl.  maybe not, just a thought.

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 04:34:18 PM »
i thought it had something to do with john lennon ?
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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 04:36:13 PM »
well this along with the ending of Rocket Queen is the best verse I've ever heard, but you can see that it does kind of say that Axl's mom didn't want to help him, or wasn't there for him. Also that he didn't want to remember this day, and it haunts him everyday.

On an ordinary day
Not in an ordinary way
All at once this song I heard
No longer would it play for anybody
Or anyone
That needed comfort from somebody
Needed comfort from someone who cared
To be
Not like you
Unlike me
And then the boy took that away
From me
So that it set the wheels in motion
Haunts our memories
You were the instrument
You were the one
How a body took the body
Gave that boy a gun
Took our innocence
Beyond our stance
Some type of moment
There we got it
All alone with her (hurt?) today

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2007, 04:45:02 PM »
well this along with the ending of Rocket Queen is the best verse I've ever heard, but you can see that it does kind of say that Axl's mom didn't want to help him, or wasn't there for him. Also that he didn't want to remember this day, and it haunts him everyday.

On an ordinary day
Not in an ordinary way
All at once this song I heard
No longer would it play for anybody
Or anyone
That needed comfort from somebody
Needed comfort from someone who cared
To be
Not like you
Unlike me
And then the boy took that away
From me
So that it set the wheels in motion
Haunts our memories
You were the instrument
You were the one
How a body took the body
Gave that boy a gun
Took our innocence
Beyond our stance
Some type of moment
There we got it
All alone with her (hurt?) today


spot on when you say one of the best verses  :thumbsup:

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2007, 05:03:05 PM »
Bull shit. Its about John Lennon, not being raped. Axl hasent been raped alright.
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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2007, 05:06:30 PM »
axl himself said, his father may have raped him as a 2year old.....

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2007, 05:15:16 PM »
 Sorry man you have to think outside your box, go get the book called ''The band time forgot'' and in Axl's own words says he was raped as a child! Catcher in The Rye is no doubt about being felt abandoned and Raped, don't compare it to the book with that title ok, this is Axl's own mind and lyrics making references to that terrible experience, listen to Sweet Child O Mine, he A warm, safe place as a child I ''HIDE'' and pray for the thunder and rain to ''QUIETLY'' pass me by. understand?? His lyrics are so deep! A true fan will understand although SCOM was about Erin Everly it also had references of Axl's terrible childhood, Axl even said that  alot of his songs and lyrics will have several meanings in it, therefore they are not flat and he will metaphorically deliver messages of frustration and anger even in a sweet, nice song that is the brilliance of this man to make something so positive turn ugly or ugly turn positive.

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2007, 05:58:30 PM »
You guys think Axl is so deep and shit, listen to the other songs, hes not really that "deep". And I have that book and don't remember where he says anything about being raped. And how the fuck would he know if he got raped at 2 fucking years old?!?! You don't remember anything at that age, your brain is still developing, which is why no one knowns what their first word was without asking a parent.
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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2007, 06:11:20 PM »
actually i remember shit from when i was two.... not that clearly but i remember one thing in particular
I never wanted you to be so full of anger<br />I never wanted you to be somebody else<br />I never wanted you to be someone afraid to know themselves<br />I only wanted you to see things for yourself

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2007, 06:15:25 PM »
hey mr m1$|-|0,  i can remember shit from when i was two, not that i was abused a a child, but aswell, im sure it wasnt the first time or last time, and is must/could of happend throughout when he weas 3 or 4 or 5 or whatever, and anyways i think the song could be referencing past abuse, not necesarily rape, plus overall im sure we have better things to talk about than Axl being raped a a child.
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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2007, 06:34:54 PM »
like the speculation around the release date of cd...... oh wait, we did that one already.


will catcher even be on CD?
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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2007, 06:44:43 PM »
I thought it was about the  Columbine shooting.

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Re: Catcher has to have or be about Axl being raped as a child?
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2007, 07:34:15 PM »
*sigh* ever since those fucking kids shot their school up, someone always says *insert song* was about that incident (mainly metal music).... why cant they do that to britney spears songs?



sorry CITR, wasnt aimed toward you, but its the truth sometimes...
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