Democratic Primary

[gan7676]

Your thoughts?

[anarchy]

Wes Clark!

Raise income tax 5% for those earning above $50000 and ABOLISH it for those earning below that.

Also despite being a retired general he wants to cut back on pentagon spending and improve public services.

But he wont win.

[nemo]

i voted john kerry, but only coz i heard his initials were jfk

[joda76]

I'm having a hard time watching the news lately concerning the democrat primary because its pointless! I honestly don't think any of these candidates have a snowballs chance in hell of coming close to beating bush.

[joda76]

Wes Clark!

Raise income tax 5% for those earning above $50000 and ABOLISH it for those earning below that.

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50,000? did you mean 500,000? Try raising a family on fifty thousand, or I guess it would be 25,000 if wes clark is elected.

[nemo]

Wes Clark!

Raise income tax 5% for those earning above $50000 and ABOLISH it for those earning below that.

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50,000? did you mean 500,000? Try raising a family on fifty thousand, or I guess it would be 25,000 if wes clark is elected.

$50000 is roughly £30000 which is far higher than the average wage of someone living in britain, the cost of living is higher here than in the usa as well so it should be manageable

[jessica]

I think it'll either be Kerry or that ex general.

Did you know that kerry is cousin to one of our politicians ?
Their mothers were sisters.

Should Kerry win, it would be excellent for Americano/ French politics. :pleased:

[rainX]

it saddens me sometime to be an american.

on "inside edition" this morning they talked about how john kerry had botox injections

i think he's gonna win though, howard dean really seems to be falling off the wagon.

jessica- is the politician an elected official? what's his title?

that's pretty interesting, i've heard obviously of relatives being politicians in the same country, but in other countries, that seems like something from the 1800s.

[anarchy]

Wes Clark!

Raise income tax 5% for those earning above $50000 and ABOLISH it for those earning below that.

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50,000? did you mean 500,000? Try raising a family on fifty thousand, or I guess it would be 25,000 if wes clark is elected.

$50000 is about £30000 apparently so my parents did a bloody good job raising 3 children on a lot less.

[jessica]

Reynics :

The man is called Brice Lalonde. People travel, and obviously, the reason Kerry and him are cousins is because of that. Nothing 1800's in the matter. Just a franco/american wedding amongst thousands.

This is a bit about Brice Lalonde, Kerry's cousin :

Brice Lalonde

1968 President of the'UNEF at the Sorbonne

1971  Creates" friends of the earth"

1972 Organises the 1st bicycle march in Paris (20000 peeps)

1973 Organises the 1st expedition to Mururoa, by sailing boat, as a protest .

1974  Campain director of René DUMOND

1975  Creates the 1st free radio "RADIO VERTE"

1976 journalist at "sauvage" ( means " wilderness")

1981 Candidate for the presidential elections à l'élection

1984 Presents a program every day on FR3( 2dn national TV) called " Good News every day"

1986 Enters against Charles Hernu ( politician) as a protest against the attack organised by secret services against the Rainbow Warior ( greenpeace)

1988  Becomes Minister of the Environment

1990 Creates " Ecology Generation"

1992 Victory at the regional Elections ( 108 sits in the assembly)

[jessica]

May i add that should Kerry win, for the 1st time, the USA will do something about ECOLOGY.

I hope he wins.

Ex Vietnam veteran, hates war, is concerned about ecology.
Ideas i personally like.

[rainX]

yeah.

i had been hoping that we'd get someone who is pro-gay marriage, but at least kerry is supportive of recognized unions, so that's a start.

and he does seem like a rather smart man who has a lot of his OWN ideas and not just what the people around him tell him.

i just hope he can carry the vote of the whole country and beat bush. i can't take anymore of this guy. did you see his state of the union speech? ridiculous. i know it's the same as when most presidents do it, but all i ever hear out of his mouth is "we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that" but he never seems to know HOW to do any of it.

[jessica]

Bush is a silly silly man.

I have no words for him.

Hey, this is part of Kerry's program, i'll put a link to his web site under it if you want in depth details.



John Kerry on the Issues

"I'm running for President to make the country we love safer, stronger, and more secure. I'm asking every American to be a Citizen Soldier again committed to leaving no American behind."

Restoring Jobs and Rebuilding Our Economy

George W. Bush has chosen tax cuts for the wealthy and special favors for special interests over our economic future. John Kerry has a plan to rebuild our future, starting with 3 million jobs in his first 500 days â€" and a plan to ensure that workers can achieve the American Dream in our changing economy.



Winning the Peace in Iraq

What does it gain America to win a war and lose a peace? The Bush failures will cost us dearly in the months ahead, in an Iraq consumed with suspicion, resentment and continued violence. What’s needed now is leadership â€" to finish the job in Iraq the right way â€" because America can and must do better.



Access to Affordable Health Care
John Kerry believes that your family’s health is just as important as any politician in Washington. Our nation needs a leader who has the courage to take on the big insurance and drug companies to make that same health care plan affordable for every American.



Defending the American Homeland
We shouldn’t be opening firehouses in Baghdad and closing them in Brooklyn. America’s homeland security needs to take steps as big as the threats we face â€" and give our front lines the resources they need. John Kerry has a six-point plan to ensure that we are safer, stronger, and more secure on our own soil.



Creating a New Era for America's Schools
We need a president who will roll up his sleeves and get things done for America’s schools. By supporting teachers, reducing class sizes, rebuilding crumbling schools, and standing up for high standards in our public education system, John Kerry has the courage to fight for our children’s future every day.



A Cleaner and Greener America

We owe it to our families, our communities, and to our planet to elect a president who will unapologetically pursue our environmental values. Unlike the Bush Administration, where special interest rule and the environment suffers, a Kerry Administration will build its policies around citizens’ needs and aspirations.



A Principled Foreign Policy

Americans deserve a principled foreign policy backed by an enlightened self-interest and undoubted military might â€" a diplomacy shaped by our own national security. John Kerry will pursue a bold, progressive internationalism that commits America to lead the world toward liberty and prosperity.


Making College Affordable for All Americans

Today’s young people need a president who will take on the Bush tax cuts and stand up for their future â€" a leader with the courage to help them pay for, prepare for, and complete college. In a Kerry Administration, if you believe in yourself enough to work hard and do what’s right, your country will invest in you.


http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

[rainX]

the thing about health care is what i'd really like to see get done.

every, and i mean every candidate we have says they will do something about health care. but it never gets done. i don't have health insurance, so when i have to go the hospital is costs anywhere from 600-1000 dollars. and health insurance costs anywhere from 300 to 500 dollars per month, so that's almost as much as i make.

if i'm not mistaken, don't our friends up north, the canadians, have free basic health care for everyone?

[jessica]

I don't know about Canada Reynics.

When you work, in france, a little part of you salary is taken to go to social security. When you fall ill and have to go to hospital, it's usually paid for and you won't have to pay extra BUT :

You need a private health cover for reading glasses, any specialist ( like a gynecologist) or even a GP.

In fact, if you consult a doctor outside of a hospital, you will need a private health plan because the social security won't pay for all of it.

A lot of people see france as an asylum ( for health) but they forget that we are talking free BASIC health.

Homeless people are the only ones who can get dentals for free in france.

The social security has enormous problems, we pay more every year to fill the gap and the gap is larger every year.

See, in order to get free health for everyone, someone has to pay.

But who should it be ?

The rich or the workers ?

The more they pay for this and that, the poorer they get too.
And the poor don't get any richer.
So if everyone gets poorer and no one gets richer, where will that leave a country's economics ?

[joda76]

Wes Clark!

Raise income tax 5% for those earning above $50000 and ABOLISH it for those earning below that.

.

50,000? did you mean 500,000? Try raising a family on fifty thousand, or I guess it would be 25,000 if wes clark is elected.

$50000 is roughly £30000 which is far higher than the average wage of someone living in britain, the cost of living is higher here than in the usa as well so it should be manageable

What is the average wage of someone living in britain? I don't know the economic structure of britain, but in america, where I live and where wes clark would raise my taxes, I make approx. fifty thousand dollars a year and support a family of four. I still consider myself lower middle class.  I don't want to just "manage" getting by with my finances, I would like to have a little extra someday to retire on, or take a vacation, or buy a car for my wife, or send my kids to a university. I did work for this money, it wasn't handed out to me at a lottery.

[joda76]

Bush is a silly silly man.

I have no words for him.


http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

I've got something to say about bush

Bush on the issues

1. restoring jobs/ rebuilding our economy

bush has already cut taxes for EVERYONE, which has led to the fastest growth in our economy in 20 years. 3 million jobs in the first 500 days? The net loss of jobs has only been around three hundred thousand. Kerry is probably talking about federalizing jobs that already exist. thats an empty campaign promise.

2. winning peace in Iraq

Lets face it, the world is a better place now that the taliban and saddam's regime are gone. Women in afganistan won't be stoned to death for speaking their minds, or beaten for showing their face in public. Iraqis won't have to watch their women raped or their children tortured. Their tongues won't be cut out for speaking their minds, no more acid baths for people who refuse to keep portraits of saddam in their house. saddam's sons will no longer be able to kill you and make your wife part of their harem. None of these candidates, short of maybe leiberman, would have made the world a better place the way bush has, and none of them have the resolve to see this thing through the way it needs to be seen through.

3. access to affordable health care

Bush just signed the biggest health care entitlement EVER! The reason there was a shortage on the flew vaccine this year was because clinton signed lesgislation making it unprofitable for drug companies to make it, thus they stopped making it. since when are drug companies the bad guys. they make stuff that saves your life.

4. defending america's home land

Defeating terrorism abroad is the best place to start defending our homeland. Thanks to Bush, the CIA and the FBI can now network and connect the dots.

5. Creating a new era for american schools

Bush let Ted Kennedy write the education bill. Bush is throwing more money at schools than any president has. And school vouchers giving intercity kids the chance to compete at better schools.

6. the environment

Bush has given automakers a timetable to create cars that run on hydrogen cells. He has also pushed for oil drilling in remote locations in alaska, hundreds of miles from any wild life. This would reduce our dependency on foreign oil as well as be more globally enviromentally friendly, since we'd be using american oil companies who are restricted by american enviromental laws. Unlike the third world countries we currently import oil from who have no enviromental laws.

 7. Foreign policy

Well, this one is pretty simple. Don't make deals with terrorist regimes!

8. affordable college

I didn't really see how Kerry addressed this one. But thanks to bush + kennedy's education bill, more kids will be accepted in colleges because they've been able to get their primary education at better schools.

[gan7676]

Wes Clark!

Raise income tax 5% for those earning above $50000 and ABOLISH it for those earning below that.

Also despite being a retired general he wants to cut back on pentagon spending and improve public services.

But he wont win.

Ah schmit, I forgot clark.

[sopranofan78]

Fuck, none of them I hope.

[matt]

the thing about health care is what i'd really like to see get done.

every, and i mean every candidate we have says they will do something about health care. but it never gets done. i don't have health insurance, so when i have to go the hospital is costs anywhere from 600-1000 dollars. and health insurance costs anywhere from 300 to 500 dollars per month, so that's almost as much as i make.

if i'm not mistaken, don't our friends up north, the canadians, have free basic health care for everyone?

i pay 145 a month and get full coverage.  when i go to the ER is costs $0. no deductable.  i have to pay a $10 co-pay for doctors visits.  that's it.  i'm not sure where you're getting 300-500 a month...you're getting ripped off if you really are paying that.

[Jotarou]

hehe..good ole Hillary Clinton..i wonder if she will run, that'll really be something.