Your favorite comics?

[mico.m]

Just finished Hell and Back- A Sin City Love Story by Frank Miller. Not bad at all

[nemo]

The obvious ones really

Watchmen - Alan Moore
Palestine - Joe Sacco
Safe Area Goradze - Joe Sacco
Persepolis - Marjane Satrapi
Maus - Art Spiegleman
Lost Girls - Alan Moore

The first 5 on that list exemplify what I think comics can do better than any other form of media in representing the struggles of an oppressed or war-ravaged society.  Maus is the greatest account of the treatment of the jews during the 2nd World War ever written, Watchmen is simply one of the best pieces of storytelling in any format ever.  Joe Sacco's stories are first hand comic accounts written by a journalist on the front line of the wars in Israel/Palestine and Bosnia and I'm assuming everyone knows about Persepolis by now what with the film and everything. 

Lost Girls is basically just Alan Moore writing lesbian porn about Alice from Alice in Wonderland and Wendy from Peter Pan but makes me laugh.

[another.raisin.for.peace]

Promethea, Lost Girls, League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell, Miracleman.

I pretty much only read Alan Moore's comics.

[Jizzface]

The obvious ones really

Watchmen - Alan Moore
Palestine - Joe Sacco
Safe Area Goradze - Joe Sacco
Persepolis - Marjane Satrapi
Maus - Art Spiegleman
Lost Girls - Alan Moore

The first 5 on that list exemplify what I think comics can do better than any other form of media in representing the struggles of an oppressed or war-ravaged society.  Maus is the greatest account of the treatment of the jews during the 2nd World War ever written, Watchmen is simply one of the best pieces of storytelling in any format ever.  Joe Sacco's stories are first hand comic accounts written by a journalist on the front line of the wars in Israel/Palestine and Bosnia and I'm assuming everyone knows about Persepolis by now what with the film and everything. 

Lost Girls is basically just Alan Moore writing lesbian porn about Alice from Alice in Wonderland and Wendy from Peter Pan but makes me laugh.

I assume you mean "Safe Area Gorazde?
I never read this comic but Goražde is a town in Bosnia,so I guess i'm right.
Thanks for the recommendation though,I might go pick it up.

[roboaxl]

Most Batman comics (not too happy with RIP at the moment though but the classics are the main reason I first picked up a comic )

barring that- anything by Alan Moore

[nemo]

Promethea, Lost Girls, League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell, Miracleman.

I pretty much only read Alan Moore's comics.

Shit, Promethea rocks, I should really have had that in my list.  From Hell too, it's badass

I assume you mean "Safe Area Gorazde?

Indeed I did, sorry about that.  *Hangs head in shame at my display of ignorance*
I actually wrote an essay about that comic; I hope I haven't always been spelling it wrong...

[GGS]

I gotta roll with

The Sandman Series - Neil Gaiman
Preacher Series - Garth Ennis
The Dark Knight Strikes Again - Frank Miller
Blankets- Craig Thompson
Clumsy - Jeffery Brown
Watchmen - Alan Moore
Arkham Aslyum - Grant Morrison
Invisible Monsters - Chuck Palahniuk   
Julius - Antony Johnson

I got the sin city series great stuff, Family Values and Hell and Back are my favourites.

Batman RIP sucks cock lol but Hush is impressive at the moment he's defintely been one of the best characters ever entered successfully into the Bat world in the past couple of decades.

I've been wanting to get Notes From A Defeatist by Sacco for awhile for the Gonzo style win and maybe Fixer but i had a look through it briefly in the shop ....interesting.... to say the least alot more serious style subject matter than Notes possesses. The strung out drug trip adventure with snazzy flashbacks or the harrowing tales of practiced genocide for light reading hmmmmm....

If your all fans of Maus and not just for the political message i'd recommend Blacksad.

Other books i'd recommend would be; 100 Bullets, 30 days of night series, Sock Monkey, Transmetropolition,Y the last man and X-Statix

[nemo]

I've been wanting to get Notes From A Defeatist by Sacco for awhile for the Gonzo style win and maybe Fixer but i had a look through it briefly in the shop ....interesting.... to say the least alot more serious style subject matter than Notes possesses. The strung out drug trip adventure with snazzy flashbacks or the harrowing tales of practiced genocide for light reading hmmmmm....

If your all fans of Maus and not just for the political message i'd recommend Blacksad.

I'd strongly recommend pretty much everything Joe Sacco's ever done, I think he's brilliant and probably the most honest war reporter you'll ever read as well.

I'm not familiar with Blacksad, may have to look into that one

[roboaxl]

The Dark Knight Strikes Again - Frank Miller

You kidding? A classic example of DC milking the cash cow and a totally unneccessary sequel to possibly my favourite graphic novel of all time. I mean, DKR obviously left itself open to a sequel but it deserved better than this. I prefer to think of DKR as the end of the Batman mythos and ignore this abomination. Represents the point when Frank Miller started to lose it

Batman RIP sucks cock lol but Hush is impressive at the moment he's defintely been one of the best characters ever entered successfully into the Bat world in the past couple of decades.

Absolutely, though honestly, the last issue was fantastic (one of the best issues I've read in years) and I'm actually kinda anticipating the ending. Unless it really does reveal Alfred as Bruce's father and Thomas Wayne still being alive, then I'm going to hunt down Morrison and put his head on a stake...

I've never been convinced with Hush, but Paul Dini is working wonders with him. The man is a genius, he could turn shit to gold

[GGS]

You kidding? A classic example of DC milking the cash cow and a totally unneccessary sequel to possibly my favourite graphic novel of all time. I mean, DKR obviously left itself open to a sequel but it deserved better than this. I prefer to think of DKR as the end of the Batman mythos and ignore this abomination. Represents the point when Frank Miller started to lose it



Absolutely, though honestly, the last issue was fantastic (one of the best issues I've read in years) and I'm actually kinda anticipating the ending. Unless it really does reveal Alfred as Bruce's father and Thomas Wayne still being alive, then I'm going to hunt down Morrison and put his head on a stake...

I've never been convinced with Hush, but Paul Dini is working wonders with him. The man is a genius, he could turn shit to gold

Dood lol that's the whole point of why i love it, I would normally hands down put the Dark Knight Returns on that list over Strikes again anyday but man i re-read them both the other day and i just get it you know especially with All-star Batman as well Miller he's just fucking funny at how he can blantely tell DC to fuck off and write the biggest piles of crap yet there still there on their hands and knees drinking his piss and begging for more.

It's like Alan Moore and Frank Miller have utterly and completely just cynically decided to fuck the system now after being ripped off on one hand and ass licked on the other.

Look at DKR i mean come on it's perfection and then DSA looool lolollol i mean bloody hell whats the point of making a Batman book when Supes dominates it for most of the story and then have Bat's completely character changed from the previous book it's clear to me anyway he derailed it on purpose. But look at the political undertones with the newscasts and the girl band it's like fuck even by reading these comics we're being ripped off the whole book is irrelevant as a batman story but as a satire on our society it's pricless.

I like to regard them as two seperate books now one a batman story in regards to DKR and one using batman and DC to tell a story like DSA.

Your right though Miller and Moore they've lost the plot in regards to mainstream comics you can't trust them to write anything but they're own pet projects and what they want to do.



I hear ya on Batman RIP i've kind of sprodically been picking it up the whole plot with Alfred being his dad and Thomas Wayne faking his death is fucked up in my opinion i'm worried that Morrision is trying to make himself immortal in comic book history as the man who fucked up Batman, I mean the whole bringing Batman's son into mainstream continiuty and all sure looks crazy.

Especially when Morrision himself last year was hinting at Bat's dying and becoming a new god but that never happened with DOFTNG's starting to wonder if he's going to do a Miller and Moore cause lol it's scary to think of how this whole story arc could end up. It either becomes the best thing ever to be written of fails completely and throws everyone into shock either way Morrison wins if you get me.

Worrying times indeed.

[roboaxl]

Well, that's the only way I'd be able to accept Miller's recent Batman work, view them as just a bit of fun and unintentionally (intentionally?)) funny. I mean, All Star Batman? Fucking hillarious man

Oh and that's a good point you've made about Morrison trying to make himself immortal by being the man who fucked up the Batman mythos. He seems determined to create the next big thing in comics, often at the expense of the writing and direction of the plot. That's been the major problem I've had with the arc, Morrison sacrificing telling a good story by hyping all his story's as "the biggest revelation in Batman's history" just so he can immortalise himself.

Sigh, to think this is the writer I once idolised solely for Arkham Asylum

[bengalfan2779]

the older superman comics.....thats about all i own.

[bushkarocks!]

i like the donald duck 

i just read the comics from hellraiser they were good !!

[machinegunlotus]

I should check out some of the above recommendations. Don't know much about the comic scene but always like the style of The Phantom, who incidentally was the first superhero in a costume, even before Superman... that's how long it's been around.

Here's a couple of cool old episodes -

http://rapidshare.com/files/45833259/78.Phantom-The_Masked_Marvel.zip
http://rapidshare.com/files/45830135/08.Phantom_Johnny_Hotwire_-The_Jungle_Patrol.zip

[another.raisin.for.peace]

Your right though Miller and Moore they've lost the plot in regards to mainstream comics you can't trust them to write anything but they're own pet projects and what they want to do.

Two points; Miller lost whatever "it" was around about 1986, no need to distinguish between his mainstream or pet projects. On the other hand, Moore never wrote mainstream comics - his more popular books set the tone which the mainstream would exploit but were not exactly made-to-order for the market they were released into. He never did a run on a mainstream comic, never did a graphic novel for a publisher's character (and no, the 80-page Killing Joke doesn't count). Moore never had the mainstream "it," he's too good a writer and storyteller to be a mainstream comics guy.

[GGS]

Awww why can't we count the killing joke it's one of the best comics ever.

Surely his work on Swamp thing could be mainstream, abiet a grey area of mainstream like Gaiman's Sandman that's published on vertigo but they where published as mainstream comics before that imprint existed and his Marvel portfolio being small but still they where made to order for the mainstream companies.

 

I totally agree though with setting the pace and credit where credit is due DC is recycling Millers ideas these days as well, Moore wrote a script for a crisis event and DC didn't pass it, But have raped it completely for ideas recently with the past 3 crisises.

http://www.hoboes.com/Comics/Twilight/
 
BTW how brutal is Miracleman supposed to be, I heard it's like pretty full on. I'm getting into the Authority comics after buying the DC/Wildstorm crossover and like was told Miracleman was also worth picking up if you can find it.

[nemo]

I've just realised that I didn't mention what is actually my favourite comic ever in my list.

Ghost In The Shell - Masamune Shirow

Truly awe inspiring.  It's probably the best commentary on our relationship with technology and modern terrorism ever written.

[another.raisin.for.peace]

Awww why can't we count the killing joke it's one of the best comics ever.

Surely his work on Swamp thing could be mainstream [. . .]

Moore wrote a script for a crisis event and DC didn't pass it, But have raped it completely for ideas recently with the past 3 crisises. [. . .]

BTW how brutal is Miracleman supposed to be, I heard it's like pretty full on.

Because Killing Joke was supposed to be an annual contribution not a standalone book, hence the brevity. And it's not that good really.

Swamp Thing was selling about 17,000 copies when Moore came aboard and it was a horror comic in a superhero market. Not exactly A-List material. Moore turned sales around and DC used the book to launch Vertigo, a deliberate move to distance itself from the output of guys like Moore and Gaiman while also reaping the rewards. The work wasn't even accepted as mainstream by its own publisher, despite outselling many of their superhero comics.

Yeah, DC has been raping that treatment for Twilight of the Superheroes for years and years. Ever read Kingdom Come? Total rip-off. That was in '96. No-one ever accused comics publishers of striving for originality though.

I wouldn't say Miracleman is brutal necessarily but I'm not really sure how to describe it. It is pretty epic though, and an early example of Moore deconstructing the hero. I'll PM you a link to some scans when I hop on my other computer.   

[ryanf]

GI JOE..but only issues with Stormshadow on the front cover

[GGS]

I've always loved the cheesy JLA/Averngers and DC/Marvel crossovers. Some of the best ones are Darkhorse and Image comic crossovers though. Aliens vs Superman, Robocop VS Terminator DC/ Wildstorm damnnnnnn i forget my age and just daze off into bliss with those epic funfests of cheesiness.

[Bane]

Got to go with Alan Moore's stuff as well

especially The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell, and Watchmen (film coming out next march)

[mico.m]

Just finished The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen Really good