Your favorite comics?

[another.raisin.for.peace]

Your right though Miller and Moore they've lost the plot in regards to mainstream comics you can't trust them to write anything but they're own pet projects and what they want to do.

Two points; Miller lost whatever "it" was around about 1986, no need to distinguish between his mainstream or pet projects. On the other hand, Moore never wrote mainstream comics - his more popular books set the tone which the mainstream would exploit but were not exactly made-to-order for the market they were released into. He never did a run on a mainstream comic, never did a graphic novel for a publisher's character (and no, the 80-page Killing Joke doesn't count). Moore never had the mainstream "it," he's too good a writer and storyteller to be a mainstream comics guy.

[GGS]

Awww why can't we count the killing joke it's one of the best comics ever.

Surely his work on Swamp thing could be mainstream, abiet a grey area of mainstream like Gaiman's Sandman that's published on vertigo but they where published as mainstream comics before that imprint existed and his Marvel portfolio being small but still they where made to order for the mainstream companies.

 

I totally agree though with setting the pace and credit where credit is due DC is recycling Millers ideas these days as well, Moore wrote a script for a crisis event and DC didn't pass it, But have raped it completely for ideas recently with the past 3 crisises.

http://www.hoboes.com/Comics/Twilight/
 
BTW how brutal is Miracleman supposed to be, I heard it's like pretty full on. I'm getting into the Authority comics after buying the DC/Wildstorm crossover and like was told Miracleman was also worth picking up if you can find it.

[nemo]

I've just realised that I didn't mention what is actually my favourite comic ever in my list.

Ghost In The Shell - Masamune Shirow

Truly awe inspiring.  It's probably the best commentary on our relationship with technology and modern terrorism ever written.

[another.raisin.for.peace]

Awww why can't we count the killing joke it's one of the best comics ever.

Surely his work on Swamp thing could be mainstream [. . .]

Moore wrote a script for a crisis event and DC didn't pass it, But have raped it completely for ideas recently with the past 3 crisises. [. . .]

BTW how brutal is Miracleman supposed to be, I heard it's like pretty full on.

Because Killing Joke was supposed to be an annual contribution not a standalone book, hence the brevity. And it's not that good really.

Swamp Thing was selling about 17,000 copies when Moore came aboard and it was a horror comic in a superhero market. Not exactly A-List material. Moore turned sales around and DC used the book to launch Vertigo, a deliberate move to distance itself from the output of guys like Moore and Gaiman while also reaping the rewards. The work wasn't even accepted as mainstream by its own publisher, despite outselling many of their superhero comics.

Yeah, DC has been raping that treatment for Twilight of the Superheroes for years and years. Ever read Kingdom Come? Total rip-off. That was in '96. No-one ever accused comics publishers of striving for originality though.

I wouldn't say Miracleman is brutal necessarily but I'm not really sure how to describe it. It is pretty epic though, and an early example of Moore deconstructing the hero. I'll PM you a link to some scans when I hop on my other computer.   

[ryanf]

GI JOE..but only issues with Stormshadow on the front cover

[GGS]

I've always loved the cheesy JLA/Averngers and DC/Marvel crossovers. Some of the best ones are Darkhorse and Image comic crossovers though. Aliens vs Superman, Robocop VS Terminator DC/ Wildstorm damnnnnnn i forget my age and just daze off into bliss with those epic funfests of cheesiness.

[Bane]

Got to go with Alan Moore's stuff as well

especially The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, From Hell, and Watchmen (film coming out next march)

[mico.m]

Just finished The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen Really good