Proposition 8 (Re-Opened)

[Iconic Shawn]

Well well.. Looks like things are starting to straighten out again in California. Proposition 8 has been voted in and people wont be able to defile the sanctity of marrige anymore with their.. obscure lifestyles. 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96670565&ft=1&f=1012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)
 

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[I ARE ESS]

Don't judge whart you don't understand

besides

your country was founded on the idea that everybody has the right to dream and achieve that dream
nowhere does it say
unless u iz gai lulz

get with the 21st century
accept people for who they are
every considered ur not right?
ur not wrong either?

mb gay marriage is offensive to some people
but mb the opinions of those peole are offensive to gay people

[Karin_Sixx]

It makes me so angry how ignorant people can be, how is it other people right to decide who is in love?
Gay people shouldn't be treated any differently than to straight people, and considering 50 percent of marriges break up anyway, it's not even as if straight people are good at the whole marrige thing.

America is a seriously backward country.

[b]

America is a seriously backward country.

So it's really Acirema ?!!??

Iconic Shawn, one day you'll wake up, and realize you are a homosexeual. And understand how wrong you were.

[Use Your Illusion III]

It makes me so angry how ignorant people can be, how is it other people right to decide who is in love?
Gay people shouldn't be treated any differently than to straight people, and considering 50 percent of marriges break up anyway, it's not even as if straight people are good at the whole marrige thing.

America is a seriously backward country.

I think a gay person is being treated this way because of religion. The United States is one of the most religious countries in the world and the Bible tells them to hate Gays. While the United States is based on separation of church and state, the religious will keep trying to combine the two under the false "America is a Christian nation" argument to justify their actions.

[Iconic Shawn]

I think a gay person is being treated this way because of religion. The United States is one of the most religious countries in the world and the Bible tells them to hate Gays. While the United States is based on separation of church and state, the religious will keep trying to combine the two under the false "America is a Christian nation" argument to justify their actions.

Well.. theres no doubt that America was founded on Christian values. I'm not judging these people.. I just don't think they should be able to get married like its all good just to benefit from it in whatever way.

I honestly think they should have joint communions or something.. some other word thats not marrige.

I.R.S-- No. I am right. I have sex and can have kids, naturally, as it was meant to be, as needed to keep the human race going.

Karin-- I don't think America is "backwards".. I think we just have root beliefs and shit (again, which this country was based on), which we stick to in order to have kids grow up and hopefully have a concept of whats right and wrong.. whats natural and what isn't. I'm cool with that. 

BK-- You saying that is just as offensive as me saying one day you'll wake up a pedophile or someone into beastiality and you'll wake up with a horses cock in your mouth.. but who am I to judge you know? That could be the right thing too.. for some.

Again.. nothing wrong with people going out and being gay.. fucking cows.. whatever.. just don't try to pass that shit up as something thats traditionally and founded on the union between a loving man and women. Something sacred.

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[b]

well being gay is really not like being a pedophile, i mean, in my stupid european communist opinion.

And Mr. chill out with your "root beliefs your country is based on". Your country is 12 years old. A little humility please.

[Karin_Sixx]

No. I am right. I have sex and can have kids, naturally, as it was meant to be, as needed to keep the human race going.

But that point is completely ridiculous and doesn't even stand up as an arguement, because not all straight people are even able to produce children.
Futher more, it's even more of a joke, because there are so many children that go up for adoption or go into foster care, and now are able to be adopted by (gay and) loving parents. So gay couples are allowed to adopt children and raise them well, but god forbid they ever get married, because that would apparently be morally wrong.

[chezequerz]

Well.. theres no doubt that America was founded on Christian values. I'm not judging these people.. I just don't think they should be able to get married like its all good just to benefit from it in whatever way.

and the UK isn't we been a Christian nation for over 1000 years (and that's correct because 1066 was thought by two christian kings one of which was english Harold Godwinson, the winner of 1066 William the conquerer highly christian and the first force to loose the viking force of Harold Hadrada was pagan). I estimate christianity in this country to be about 1.5 thousand years as a central religion AND here in the great CHRISTIAN nation of Great Britain gay men and women can marry

I honestly think they should have joint communions or something.. some other word thats not marrige.

I.R.S-- No. I am right. I have sex and can have kids, naturally, as it was meant to be, as needed to keep the human race going.

i pray to your god that you never have children, i don't think the gene pool could handle another one
not all parents are great i'm not gonna go into detail but lets leave it at speaking from experience


Karin-- I don't think America is "backwards".. I think we just have root beliefs and shit (again, which this country was based on), which we stick to in order to have kids grow up and hopefully have a concept of whats right and wrong.. whats natural and what isn't. I'm cool with that. 

you don't think the concept is backwards because it's your backwards beliefs that keep the country backwards. Again i find myself repeating older tradition of christianity. I should report you to moderation for homophobia but i think that wouldn't get me much further.

BK-- You saying that is just as offensive as me saying one day you'll wake up a pedophile or someone into beastiality and you'll wake up with a horses cock in your mouth.. but who am I to judge you know? That could be the right thing too.. for some.

that's completely different there is a fair bit of evidence for biological factors of sexuality as well as mental you make it sound like a choice

Again.. nothing wrong with people going out and being gay.. fucking cows.. whatever.. just don't try to pass that shit up as something thats traditionally and founded on the union between a loving man and women. Something sacred.

Nothing sacred about it. Especially these days

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[Milles]

Sanctity of life, sanctity of marriage, all nonsense to be honest with you.
Anyway, in the spirit of tradition, how far back do you wanna take it? In classical Athens (arguably the founders of a democratic society) wasn't an uncommon thing, even for married men I believe

[Iconic Shawn]

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I'm not going to argue about this man. I feel it isn't right. You feel its totally cool.
The people of California agree with me.. in the hundreds of thousands.

I'm not going to try and make you think straight dude.. you or anyone.. Just pointing out how I feel and why.

If you bring Christian into this, it shouldn't be allowed at all. To boast about how the UK is a great Christian country and say that they allow same sex marriage.. is hypocritical. Plain and simple. Christianity does not allow that nonsense.

And I hate that word.. "homophobic". I don't fear these people at all. I've been alright with a few gay dudes and pretty much every bisexual girl I've met. That word right there has been used to shit to try and make someone feel bad or wrong for not accepting that nonsense as right.

My final point on being gay being natural or not..

How about we let a few thousand gay people age 20 and up hang in a cool island for 100 years under the rainbow like gay flag.

No artificial pregnancies.

What happens to those types of humans after 100 years?

To quote some book.. "For the wages of sin is death". A natural death of all those people because they want to go through life living in an unnatural way.

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[donnie dupre.e]

It should be up to the churches individually whether or not they want to marry gay people in their own church,i think i heard someone say once "nothing makes god happier when two people ANY two people come together in love" and the ones that think its against the bible,against god blah blah blah then they dont have to.

[ShePoutsHerBest]

I love gay people, they should totally be allowed the same rights that straight couples have, this proposition 8 thing is lame

[PurpleHaze]

I'm not going to argue about this man. I feel it isn't right. You feel its totally cool.
The people of California agree with me.. in the hundreds of thousands.

I'm not going to try and make you think straight dude.. you or anyone.. Just pointing out how I feel and why.

If you bring Christian into this, it shouldn't be allowed at all. To boast about how the UK is a great Christian country and say that they allow same sex marriage.. is hypocritical. Plain and simple. Christianity does not allow that nonsense.

And I hate that word.. "homophobic". I don't fear these people at all. I've been alright with a few gay dudes and pretty much every bisexual girl I've met. That word right there has been used to shit to try and make someone feel bad or wrong for not accepting that nonsense as right.

My final point on being gay being natural or not..

How about we let a few thousand gay people age 20 and up hang in a cool island for 100 years under the rainbow like gay flag.

No artificial pregnancies.

What happens to those types of humans after 100 years?

To quote some book.. "For the wages of sin is death". A natural death of all those people because they want to go through life living in an unnatural way.

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So what?

If you put a load of infertile couples on an island together they wouldn't breed either.

What's your point?

Should infertile couples not be allowed to marry too?

It should be up to the churches individually whether or not they want to marry gay people in their own church,i think i heard someone say once "nothing makes god happier when two people ANY two people come together in love" and the ones that think its against the bible,against god blah blah blah then they dont have to.

The government should NEVER be allowed to tell the church how they can and can't marry. Separation of church and state works the other way around too.

If religious instituti0ons don't want to accept gays, that's their decision.

With regards to secular marriages in registry offices and such, gays should be given all the legal rights under the law that straights get. And it should be called the same thing for both, a "marriage".