Abortion - Is it really the womans right to choose?

[misterbrownstone]

it's my right to choose.

/thread.

[Iconic Shawn]

Its of course her right to choose but the funding should also come from her, not taxpayer money.

I was asked..  If you shoot a pregnant woman in the face and she and her fetus die, is it a double murder or does it count as 1?

Legally speaking.

~S~

[ktallett]

id have a look online for cases as i know in the uk it has happened. Not by being shot in the face yet a unborn child has been killed. I wasnt sure of the outcome. I personally dont agree with abortion as i can only see it in the situation of myself wanting my child. Although for example rape victims or aids sufferers it is good to have that option. Maybe there should be restrictions, although may be difficult to enforce.

[Iconic Shawn]

Totally for it as use for rape and AIDS.. of course.
But not as birth control for uncaring, un responsible sluts.

~S~

[ruthie]

Totally for it as use for rape and AIDS.. of course.
But not as birth control for uncaring, un responsible sluts.
~S~

it takes two
............besides, just because the mother has HIV doesn't mean the child will get it.

don't get me wrong - i'm for it - but not for those reasons

[Iconic Shawn]

it takes two
............besides, just because the mother has HIV doesn't mean the child will get it.

don't get me wrong - i'm for it - but not for those reasons

It doesn't take 2. A woman has control of weather she has kids or not. A guy can use a condom sure, but the woman has TOTAL control over the thing thanks to birth control.

Women who don't want kids should be on birth control. The shit is free! There's no excuse to have so many aborted babies per year.

~S~

[ruthie]

yes, a woman can take hormones which increase the risk of some cancers, or the guy can wear a condom

It doesn't take 2. A woman has control of weather she has kids or not. A guy can use a condom sure, but the woman has TOTAL control over the thing thanks to birth control.

Women who don't want kids should be on birth control. The shit is free! There's no excuse to have so many aborted babies per year.

~S~

fact: a lady must be impregnated by a man!! why is it any less his responsibility?

the birth control pill is not suitable for everyone.  it increases the risks of some cancers, and a close friend of my had a stroke at age 30, and the only reason the doctors could come up with thy this happened - the birth control pill. 

besdies if the women are as irresponsible as you say, they'll probably forget to take it rendering it useless anyways.

[Iconic Shawn]

Yeah but come on Ruthie.. You know it doesn't feel as good with a condom. And some chicks / dudes like the feeling of that warm burst inside.

I understand your side of things though. We all know most guys could care less about the shit which is why women should take care of their bodies IF they're going to be letting guys bust inside of them.

If I was a chick it would be my #1 priority since I'd be the one to get pregnant if I fucked up you know?

However.. with the way an abortion is advertised as just another medical procedure like a tooth canal it kind of fucks the chicks morals up and they really make shit out of the gift of developing a new life they've been blessed with.

I for one would think twice about being serious with a chick who's had 5 abortions and such. Medical reasons aside.

~S~

[ktallett]

If you argue that why isnt it any less his responsibility in protection. Then if he has half of the input he should be allowed to have his vote on whether to keep the child or not fairly listened to by abortion clinic. For example the lady should not be allowed to get rid of the child if the man is willing to look after the child completely.

[nemo]

If you argue that why isnt it any less his responsibility in protection. Then if he has half of the input he should be allowed to have his vote on whether to keep the child or not fairly listened to by abortion clinic. For example the lady should not be allowed to get rid of the child if the man is willing to look after the child completely.

If you're a seahorse and you can carry the baby to term and give birth to it, fair enough.

And no, the pill doesn't agree with everyone, I know it does the job, but the side effects for some girls can make life pretty unbearable.  I'm not sure clinical depression's something I'd be willing to put up with just because a guy decided he didn't enjoy condoms as much.

[Iconic Shawn]

What do you call regular depression?

Ugh.. the weak minded!

~S~

[ktallett]

Im sorry to argue yet it is very much speculation that the pill causes depression simply by a few coincindences a couple of minor studies. The idea is todo with reducing levels of serotonin in the brain. Hardly evidence. As long as you take the lose dose pill there is extremely unlikely to cause depression or worsen existing depression.

But bothe sexes are here to continue the species and evolve. Therefore one individual should not be allowed to make the decision of aborting a prospective child. Whether that individual has to carry the child or not. The fact females are carrying children is simply chance yet it means that you have a duty to keep human life going in a sensible way. You have the duty to create children for future generations yet not keep going after more so the world becomes over populated.

[Iconic Shawn]

I totally agree with Ktallett on the above.

~S~

[Sean]

I agree 5 abortions is gross and shouldn't be tax payers money.  but do YOU know a girl who has had 5 abortions?

I totally agree with Ktallett on the above.

~S~

I zoned out lol