Shackler's - a question for real musicians...

[xxrocketxxqueenxx]

see even though her hubby is a music person rather than lyrics, personally i think this song is mainly about the lyrics, thats not to say the music is bad or anything, i just think the lyrics on this song stand out before the music

[Kov]

Don't diss the intro - it saved my life.

Literally.  I was driving home after my roman law exam, tired as fuck, and I fell asleep behind the wheel at the end of Chinese Democracy. The CD player was on full blast, then it started playing shackler and I just got the car back from the wrong lane, with a truck coming towards me, and stepping on the brakes like hell.

So I LOVE the SR intro. 

[rioaxl]

It is jolting!  Gratz on waking up!  Good choice of music!

[adm]

Definition of melody: the perception of pleasant arrangements of musical notes

This is not a melodical song. Take the opening riff for example, the chord is the root note and flat of the root noot. That's about as unpleasent a sound you can make with a guitar. You just hear a horrible clash as the sound waves bounce off of each other.

the definition of melody that i was going on about was : is it catchy, does it get stuck in your head, do you wanna press rewind and hear it again

[inktvip93]

I see Shackler's Revenge more as a arangement of the same song,
because, the intro is coming back in the song quite a few times, and is used as a outro.
next to all, brilliant vocals, a low bass vocal to lay the underground. a good mid vocal, and to finish it a high vocal of most of the people reconise Axl Rose from.
When the song is performed live, it's even better then it is on CD. (but that's my own opinion)
I really love the song, and I'm hoping that there will be more songs like this from GnR!

[BarbiStolatVonG]

Is Shackler's Revenge a very good (or sophisticated) song musically?

*bump*

In answer to your question yes.

From a singer's point of view, the harmony lines, (in the first verse in particular) if you can call them that, for example, do require a sophisticated ear. The melody moves somewhere between flat and sharp.

In order to make all the "sounds" or "levels" of this one work, "hitting the note" is important (Tommy says!) ... hard to do, because the "centre" is always changing at a rather quick pace...and you have to keep up....


And it can be easy to be waylaid by all the sounds around the one you are supposed to sing. Also, the singer is not really given the first note/root either, in a traditional sense of hearing it in an intro...


Shackler's Revenge..... the key is hidden.......

[King bumb.l.foot II]

i personally don't care how sophisticated it is, it rocks my testicles off

[BarbiStolatVonG]

yeah, all that being said......


It is heaps o' fun to sing!!!! 

[BGFAN]

i personally don't care how sophisticated it is, it rocks my testicles off

So it serves it's purpose perfectly then 'cause I think that the main purpose of a rock song is to make people, respectively testicles, rock