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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2009, 03:39:43 PM »
Our cries for assistance in Helmand province have gone completely ignored. We've got 8000 troops on the ground there. It's the deadliest part of Afghanistan. It took months for your dickhead, soft as shit President to agree to send a few more marines to help us do the hard work, in which time about 25 soldiers have died and hundreds have been injured.

I'd consider this to be the first in a long line of middle fingers which we will be sending to our so called allies across the water. 

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Well dude.. I must agree with you on the dickhead part.

However, don't blame America or our troops. Their just grunts. Our soft as shit president DID say he's going to really push a lot of troops over there soon so we'll see.

Keep sending him middle fingers though. It goes along well with the rest of the worlds sentiments about the dude.

Aside maybe Chavez, Kim, Castro and people like that who he's really cool and compassionate with.

And 2na, I think you'd be singing a different tune if your mother was one of the 200.

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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2009, 03:56:24 PM »
And 2na, I think you'd be singing a different tune if your mother was one of the 200.

And its lucky that family members of the deceased dont get to pass judgement. Why i hear you ask? Because that would deliver vengence and not justice.
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2009, 03:58:05 PM »
letting him die in prison is nothing to do with vengence its to do with justice for the 270 people that died because of him and others, we showed we was better than them by not blowing up one of thier planes with 270 people on it

any british prisoner would be welcome to be judged for a compassionate transfer, to deny it would be ignoring our own rules to satisfy a base desire to punish a man who will be dead very soon.
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2009, 04:04:30 PM »
any british prisoner would be welcome to be judged for a compassionate transfer, to deny it would be ignoring our own rules to satisfy a base desire to punish a man who will be dead very soon.
but like ive said before it is a shit ruling and any murderer should be kept in prison till the day they die, but also in the case of this guy he didnt help with the murder of one person or 5 or 10 not even 100 but over twice that amount.
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2009, 04:10:17 PM »
you really think any murderer should be in prison till the day they die? you dont believe in rehabilitation? thats another issue altogether tho.

if you think thats a shit ruling then fair enough, personally i think it is an example of why our way of life is better than what terrorists want to destroy. to deny this man would be defeating ourselves.
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2009, 04:25:07 PM »
you really think any murderer should be in prison till the day they die? you dont believe in rehabilitation? thats another issue altogether tho.

if you think thats a shit ruling then fair enough, personally i think it is an example of why our way of life is better than what terrorists want to destroy. to deny this man would be defeating ourselves.

some more than others yeah for sure, child killers, serial killers, people who have planned their murder, sick sadist fucks etc etc, fuck rehabilitation, how many times do you here of these people getting out and reoffending again, sorry i would rather feel safe, and surely knowing your going to prison for life may actually make some people stop and think, life is a lot lot longer than 15 years thats for sure
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2009, 04:42:11 PM »
all murderers plan their murder. in law murder has to be premeditated and intentional' otherwise its not murder. i'd say anyone who does that doesnt care about the consequence so it wouldn't work as a deterrent.
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2009, 05:14:48 PM »
I'm not sure i agree with compassion for this guy. Ronnie Biggs, is a different matter for example, he didnt kill 200 odd people...

i can understand releasing him, of course, but i wouldnt have given it the go ahead personally.

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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2009, 06:25:10 PM »

And 2na, I think you'd be singing a different tune if your mother was one of the 200.

"Briton Jim Swire, whose daughter Flora also died on Flight 103, welcomed the Libyan's release, which he has long campaigned for, "I think he should be able to go straight home to his family and spend his last days there," Swire told the BBC"
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2009, 08:29:39 PM »
fuck rehabilitation, how many times do you here of these people getting out and reoffending again

Prisons have already decided to fuck rehabilitation, that's one of the main reasons people who get out tend to reoffend.

Someone needs to take a long look at the justice system and ask whether it's actually there to punish, protect or reform.  Because at the moment it really only seems to be doing one of the three (the punishing part) and that's the one that does society as a whole the least good.

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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2009, 02:52:59 AM »
i'm with 2na on this, the guy is gonna be dead soon anyway, he's living under a death sentence with terminal cancer, read into it what you will, but i think its enough now, let him die on his home soil. The families of the people lost in the attack don't have to worry about him ever again, he'll be dead.
im sure thye will still think about him every day though, and how their loved ones can never come back

"Briton Jim Swire, whose daughter Flora also died on Flight 103, welcomed the Libyan's release, which he has long campaigned for, "I think he should be able to go straight home to his family and spend his last days there," Swire told the BBC"


this man had his daughter taken from him, he knows what it must be like to not see a loved one before they die, why wish it on any one else?,this man has true compassion
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2009, 06:32:44 PM »
The plan apparently was for one of the Princes to go to Libya in September to discuss trade. The rags are saying that it isn't likely because of the heroes welcome the prisoner was met with, but that's just bollocks. This was a gesture of goodwill it seems.

Looks like we are gonna try and trade some oil with Libya so we don't use Russia and get bullied like the rest of Europe (except for Italy who used to get oil from Russia but changed to Libya after Russia turned the pipes off last winter).

Good move to let him go IMO if this is the outcome. If we rely on Russia for oil then we're fucked. Plain and simple. 
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2009, 03:15:36 AM »
I agree with mr. goes and mr. lust.    Anybody planning to kill 240 has to know that he is ending his life when going thru with it.  I don't know the history either, but from what I understand this is my opinion.

There are thousands apon thousands of people who could use compassion on sentences. Tommy Chong for one.

but yea kill 240 people and example has to be set... should be strung up and hung at the city square and laughed at. so people think twice about doing that again.
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Re: The Lockerbie Bomber Free
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2009, 05:29:32 AM »
I agree with mr. goes and mr. lust.    Anybody planning to kill 240 has to know that he is ending his life when going thru with it.  I don't know the history either, but from what I understand this is my opinion.

There are thousands apon thousands of people who could use compassion on sentences. Tommy Chong for one.

but yea kill 240 people and example has to be set... should be strung up and hung at the city square and laughed at. so people think twice about doing that again.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8215556.stm

That dude admitted to murdering at least 22 of 500 civilians.  America sentenced him to 3 years house arrest...

As a deterrent or a way to set an example I'm not exactly sure that was the most effective strategy.

 



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