9/11 Mastermind To Face Trial....In New York

[deadxsouth]

Thread title is misleading.

[2NaFish]

Thread title is misleading.

were you really expecting obam...ermm osama? Anyway, al-Qaeda is loads of separate cells capable of independent terror; this guy is the main guy.

[Iconic Shawn]

this guy is the main guy.

Bullshit.
He works for the main guy. This, is as good as it gets, for now I hope.

And this whole shit is a sham. Dude should have been tried as a combatant. Not getting put through the circus of the legal system.

~S~

[2NaFish]

rather than arguing against selected chunks of what im saying you could actually take part in the debate. osama was not the mastermind behind 9\11. i realise it would be neater and fit the script better, but the nature of al-Qaeda means indivdual cells can work independently of central command.

[Iconic Shawn]

He's not?  I thought he took full credit for it?

And I thought the world collectively accepts him as the main culprit.

Even our Mr. Obama said that HE still has to be caught.

And regardless, this dude should have been shot up against a wall. His bloody corpse should have been the only picture I had to look at of him in the paper.

Just how I feel though..

~S~

[polar]

i'm waiting for a terrorist to kill kirk cameron, now that would be entertaining

[2NaFish]

ofcourse he took credit for it. that doesnt mean he masterminded it. come on, you're not so stupid that you dont know the difference. if you do something off your own back at work, but your boss takes the credit does that mean he did it? come on. it gets tiring spelling this out to you. as for the rest of your post, it only goes to highlight the hypocricy of the western values you apparently extol and yet wouldnt want to see practised. youd rather reach their level.

[aintitfun22]

how about right wing bible bashing then? "whatsoever you do unto the least of my brothers you do unto me." that, and killing the only makes him a martyr that will lead to thousands more taking arms against the west. there you go; the bible plus logic and not a hint of liberal fag nonsense.

i dont believe in god. and by not killing him that is actually encouraging others to take arms against us because there is less consequence. despite what the terrorists might say and even part-way believe, none of them prefer death or at least are not scared a little bit of dying. im sure they would prefer life in prison. why should we cater to them? so unless you have an explanation as to how not striking back with violence against those who attack us with violence makes any sort of sense i dont find that all too logical.

so far in my opinion Obama is a failure as a president. a huge one. and I came in with some measure of hope he would do well. im not a republican by the way so I dont have that conservative bias.

[2NaFish]

if you kill him, he becomes a martyr. real simple. 

you say death doesnt matter to those already signed up - well my point is not about those signed up, its the ones who arent signed up but see a brother being killed by the west and decide to take revenge. your plan leads to nothing but more revenge and a feedback of more death.

[Rocket Queen]

What you're saying is pretty obvious to me 2na. I just don't get how people see it differently. 1; They don't understand anything at all. 2; They refuse to accept the facts.

In my honest humble icon....Anne opinion.

[mooney]

unless you have an explanation as to how not striking back with violence against those who attack us with violence makes any sort of sense i dont find that all too logical.

are you being serious here?? can you not figure this little equation out by yourself? im honestly dying to know whether you can answer your own question or not.

[aintitfun22]

are you being serious here?? can you not figure this little equation out by yourself? im honestly dying to know whether you can answer your own question or not.

im basing my statement off of the assumption that cultural pressure has led the vast majority of these islamic extremists to terrorist violence. It is my belief, and im not saying im right because I may be wrong, that their actions which I am contending are the result of cultural pressures, would not be commited if these terrorists knew that their would be a violent response from those they attack. The more we strike back the more it discourages the vast majority of these terrorists from violent actions. If we sit there and take it without responding, it shows them that their strategy is working and the violence will continue to escalate as they get even more ambitious with their demands and goals. Because most of these extremists are not legitimately crazy however, if we strike back and show that we are not going to as I previously stated "sit there and take it" they will be discouraged by the fact that the military might of the western nations far outmatches the military might of terrorist militia groups. I do not feel that this problem can be solved easily, but if we dont respond with some sort of force to terrorist violence then the problem will only grow bigger. Therefore, in order to at least contain this problem there must be a military response.
does this answer the question?

[Iconic Shawn]

These people love to boast about "we should be better" and you know what, we ALL should be, but the facts are that THEY are NOT better than that. And THEY will continue to take advantage of the worlds growing appeasement for them.

I love how people critique how we deal with them but have no answers as how to stop them.

Aside appeasing them by doing things like letting them free if they're sick and shit. 

~S~

[2NaFish]

These people love to boast about "we should be better" and you know what, we ALL should be, but the facts are that THEY are NOT better than that. And THEY will continue to take advantage of the worlds growing appeasement for them.

Happy to be judged by the level of the lowest of the low huh?