Winter Olympics Vancouver 2010

[sunnyp]

^ I'm fairly sure Mr Ktallett's frustrations come from the fact that very few Americans seem to be humble in victory or particularly gracious in defeat. Continually being a proud arsehole no matter what the result is usually the hallmark of a twat IMO.

[Iconic Shawn]

^ I'm fairly sure Mr Ktallett's frustrations come from the fact that very few Americans seem to be humble in victory or particularly gracious in defeat. Continually being a proud arsehole no matter what the result is usually the hallmark of a twat IMO.

Loving your country till no end? Nothing wrong with that dude. Its sports. Its suppose to be competitive. When we lost in the Basketball thing the world was up our ass and that was alright. We deserved it.

However.. we will always cheer our country men with pride and wave our flag proudly every time we whip the rest of the world in competition.

USA.. USA... USA.

~S~

[dman1991]

^ I'm fairly sure Mr Ktallett's frustrations come from the fact that very few Americans seem to be humble in victory or particularly gracious in defeat. Continually being a proud arsehole no matter what the result is usually the hallmark of a twat IMO.

I dont know what your basing that off. Its the same everywhere, there is good and bad sportsmanship, bad sportsmanship is not something the American's invented or teach, some people are just jerks. Come on, Hooliganism, what is that all about?

Just look at how Ktallet talks about Soccer. He has the same arrogance as anyone when its comes to having a good team, and i'm sure the brits will not be to forgiving if they end up knocking the U.S. out of the world cup.

[sunnyp]

1. Hooliganism is far worse in Italy, Russia or Turkey than here. You may be basing your tiring stereotype of British culture on something from 30 years ago. No doubt it happens, but it's not exclusive to my country at all.

2. I think it's fantastic that the US is doing so well in all sports. I salute an athlete who can give up all of his time and achieve fantastic results. Not every country can finance their athletes or support them in the same way. The US can, and that's why they get so many medals.

3. Americans are so used to hearing about victory that they don't really know how to lose. American news agencies give very little coverage to American failures, so that Joe Public hears about victories only. You should see how self critical our media is here in Europe! 

[polar]

i'm american and i couldn't care less about our achievements in the olympics.  it's not like i did something to help personally.

also in the US, the olympic counsel doesn't get it's money from the govt, it's from tv rights and corporate sponsors

[dman1991]

1. Hooliganism is far worse in Italy, Russia or Turkey than here. You may be basing your tiring stereotype of British culture on something from 30 years ago. No doubt it happens, but it's not exclusive to my country at all.

2. I think it's fantastic that the US is doing so well in all sports. I salute an athlete who can give up all of his time and achieve fantastic results. Not every country can finance their athletes or support them in the same way. The US can, and that's why they get so many medals.

3. Americans are so used to hearing about victory that they don't really know how to lose. American news agencies give very little coverage to American failures, so that Joe Public hears about victories only. You should see how self critical our media is here in Europe! 

1. I wasnt saying hooligans are exclusive to England, many American Football fans have their own way of being idiots, lol, I was just stating that bad sportsmanship is something that exists everywhere.

2. I sort of agree, the U.S. olympic teams are not funded by the U.S. government, though there is a bigger population with more wealth. You could consider that an advantage, but many nations have success in different sports no matter the wealth of their respected nations.

3. I would say that is 50/50, depending on who is the subject. The media loves to cover American success, but the real ratings come from failure and inadequacy. Tiger Woods for example, as glorified as he was, all the majors he won and records he broke, are equally as represented as when he is underachieving. Or the latest shit storm's coverage is as big as any event in his life. Each new outlet has their own agenda/slant on everything, it all depends on what you watch I suppose. Media is out to make money what ever way they can, for every person that wants to see Tiger woods win there is one who was equally as happy to find out he was unfaithful.

[ktallett]

mm, Andre Agassi, Pete Sampress, Monica Seles, Jennifer Caprioti, Gary Hall Jr, Micheal Johnson, Carl Lewis, Jesse Owens, Andy Roddick, Misty Hyman, Phil Mickelson, Prefontaine, Arnold Palmer,

2 out of these are still in their sport competing the rest are simply past successes that are silly talking about. Im not going to chat about fred perry's brilliant win at grand slams.

It is odd that you are blind to how crap you are at so many sports. Whether that is media or just selective of the nation. Any sport that isnt on the american radar is apparently not very good or important. Eg table tennis although its a billion peoples national sport. Snooker you really arent very caring about. Yet these sports that are hardly played outside of US they are apparently amazing. When the sport in the country is played by just under 50 nations. Its around a quarter of the world.

Plus for football (im not going to use this idiotic soccer its football just because its used for a different term in the US doesnt make it correct.) im sorry but one ok tournament at 2002 isnt enough to base any sort of case for this years world cup. You will most likely struggle to make it out of the group stages if its going by recent form. USA wouldnt have based the chances of this years ice hockey at vancouver on turin's when you only finished 8th or something then.

[sunnyp]

1. I wasnt saying hooligans are exclusive to England, many American Football fans have their own way of being idiots, lol, I was just stating that bad sportsmanship is something that exists everywhere.

2. I sort of agree, the U.S. olympic teams are not funded by the U.S. government, though there is a bigger population with more wealth. You could consider that an advantage, but many nations have success in different sports no matter the wealth of their respected nations.

3. I would say that is 50/50, depending on who is the subject. The media loves to cover American success, but the real ratings come from failure and inadequacy. Tiger Woods for example, as glorified as he was, all the majors he won and records he broke, are equally as represented as when he is underachieving. Or the latest shit storm's coverage is as big as any event in his life. Each new outlet has their own agenda/slant on everything, it all depends on what you watch I suppose. Media is out to make money what ever way they can, for every person that wants to see Tiger woods win there is one who was equally as happy to find out he was unfaithful.

Well, Tiger Woods is a global superstar, and his infidelity isn't my issue. My point is that I bet you couldn't tell me which countries are continually outstanding at sports like squash, hockey (not ice hockey, field hockey), fencing, track cycling or rugby without researching it first. This isn't a trumpet blowing exercise because I can assure you that GB teams are average at best in these.

My point is that the US media tells you that you're fantastic at the sports you're fantastic at, but ignores the ones which you're shit at.

[ktallett]

Actually i know you are from uk but track cycling UK are one of the worlds best in past few years. especially at bejing 2008 and past world championships.  They are simpluy brilliant and possibly have a tour de france winner in bradley wiggins especially after last years. And rugby i personally think we play shit in pointless matches yet have been in past 2 world cup finals.

[sunnyp]

Actually i know you are from uk but track cycling UK are one of the worlds best in past few years. especially at bejing 2008 and past world championships.  They are simpluy brilliant and possibly have a tour de france winner in bradley wiggins especially after last years. And rugby i personally think we play shit in pointless matches yet have been in past 2 world cup finals.

Yeah mate, I know.

[eugen]

Don't want to interrupt you, but we're leading now. Greetings from Germany. 

[sunnyp]

Don't want to interrupt you, but we're leading now. Greetings from Germany. 

Congratulations. Long may it continue.

I hate to bother you with such a trivial question, but Iconic is having difficulty understanding why you're doing so well. He believes that it doesn't snow much there.

Is he correct?

[I ARE ESS]

congrats to all the medal winners

erm just leading on from what ktallett was saying, i've never understood why the baseball thing in america is called the world seriese when only U.S.A compete

[polar]

congrats to all the medal winners

erm just leading on from what ktallett was saying, i've never understood why the baseball thing in america is called the world seriese when only U.S.A compete

because back in the day they used to play other teams from all over the world, before it was MLB