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Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« on: February 27, 2010, 07:14:46 PM »
From Aprils Classic Rock

CR: So you've got three ex-members of Guns N' Roses on the Album, There's only one guy missing.

Slash: (Laughing) Yeeaah....

CR: And that guy made some comments last year - calling you "a cancer and better removed" - that seemed pretty unforgivable. It seemed, finally, to put any possibilty of a reunion out of the question.

Slash: It's never been a question, its never been a possible thing. It's not just a question of 'oh can't you just put aside your differences?'. Nobody get's it. And i can understand that - why would it be so hard to get a bunch of guys together and make ton's of money and get them to play some fucking song's? What's the big deal? Well it's a bigger deal for him then it is for me. But at the same time, it's not possible it just wont happen.
Under different circumstances I'd be the first one to do it. But if that were the case i would never of quit in the first place. Axl's been spewing out all this vehement stuff against me, and he picked on a couple of other people and shit, and it's just like... It's just sad.
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2010, 07:36:17 PM »
From Aprils Classic Rock

CR: So you've got three ex-members of Guns N' Roses on the Album, There's only one guy missing.

Slash: (Laughing) Yeeaah....

CR: And that guy made some comments last year - calling you "a cancer and better removed" - that seemed pretty unforgivable. It seemed, finally, to put any possibilty of a reunion out of the question.

Slash: It's never been a question, its never been a possible thing. It's not just a question of 'oh can't you just put aside your differences?'. Nobody get's it. And i can understand that - why would it be so hard to get a bunch of guys together and make ton's of money and get them to play some fucking song's? What's the big deal? Well it's a bigger deal for him then it is for me. But at the same time, it's not possible it just wont happen.
Under different circumstances I'd be the first one to do it. But if that were the case i would never of quit in the first place. Axl's been spewing out all this vehement stuff against me, and he picked on a couple of other people and shit, and it's just like... It's just sad.
Almost as sad as writing a book full of vehement, plz slash...
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2010, 07:44:31 PM »
Did he really say this?!!

Who gives a fuck about integrity, eh Slash?

He just seems to be more and more about money. Thankfully, to some, it's about more than just the dollar.
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2010, 08:46:02 PM »
Slash could probably tear Axl up in the media and has had lots of opportunity to do so, but hasn't. Cheers Slash.

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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2010, 08:58:10 PM »
With Slash having put the past behind him many years ago and Axl still bringing it up constantly, I really don't see how people can defend Axl, and thats coming from a big fan of his.
Anyway, Slash must be REALLY sick of answering the reunion questions.

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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 09:20:14 PM »
With Slash having put the past behind him many years ago and Axl still bringing it up constantly, I really don't see how people can defend Axl, and thats coming from a big fan of his.
Anyway, Slash must be REALLY sick of answering the reunion questions.

while im a little bored of the whole saga myself, i think to say "Axl still bringing it up constantly..." is a little off the mark. He has hardly said anything about anything over the years - a few comments here and there, a post or two on some forums, of which he was answering fans questions etc... etc... We know Slash has been suing axl behind the scenes - a few comments here and there as well.

Im not having a pop at Slash, i like Slash, but they both get asked these questions, and it's only been recently that Axl has said anything remotely significant on the subject...

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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 12:45:59 PM »
With Slash having put the past behind him many years ago and Axl still bringing it up constantly, I really don't see how people can defend Axl, and thats coming from a big fan of his.
Anyway, Slash must be REALLY sick of answering the reunion questions.

Couldn't Agree more, and i didn't quite buy Axl's side on the story!

If u pay attention to it, Axl said he never wanted to change the music style of Guns N'Roses, but he changed it!

Even though that wasn't the motive for the break up...it pretty much makes Axl's side irrelevant in my opinion.

Whats even more irrelevant though, is the fact that people still ask for a reunion, when this new band kicks ass!
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 01:11:59 PM »
Quite frankly, i think this bit of the Axl's posts is what caused the break up. I can smell it a mile away that it was this:


"A lot of people bought that crap and me having gone in other directions seems to many to have verified that. Then you have the mind twisting equally as true horseshit in Slash's book but I have the rehearsal tapes. There's nothing but Slash based blues rock and he stopped it to both go solo and try to completely take over Guns. I read all this if Axl would've put words and melodies on it could've... That was denied and I didn't walk till several months after having 3 to 4 hour phone conversations nearly every day with Slash trying to reach a compromise. I was specifically told no lyrics, no melodies, no changes to anything and to sing what I was told or fuck off."


In my opinion and im just guessing of course. Slash got Frustrated of Axl not going in the studio for awhile (and that explains the tapes only having Slash in it), and while Axl wasn't there he made those tapes and Axl gave a listen, and probably wanted to change some of the parts and also put in some of his efforts, Ballads, industrial sounding songs whatever, and Slash didn't agree with it, because he saw those songs as being perfect (on his mind) and didn't want to do different kind of songs. Axl on the other hand fired Gilby before, which already had created some tension between the two and hired Paul Tobias, who is a more industrial guitar player, and thats why Slash couldn't even play witn him... two different styles, two different directions... so adding to this whole shit, they probably had enough between them and argued... and Slash just got tired of all this bullshit and went touring with Slash's Snakepit. He then proceeded to release some of the songs he had planned to release on a GUNS ALBUM, some of which Axl might have agreed to include and also joining that, he created media buzz on himself by touring with another band, and Axl probably felt that has a betrayal, which i can understand.

Slash on the other hand felt that he was the only one puting an effort in GUNS, and that Axl didn't even care about it anymore. He felt Axl was getting more and more distant and that things would only get worst after the illusion tours. He felt so frustrated that he wasn't even interested in seeing what Axl had in mind for the album, also he probably freaked out in seeing Axl was investing so much in stuff like synths and stuff that he felt it didn't combine very well with GUNS style and after the whole "name papers bit", he felt that Axl was constantly taking GUNS as his band and not thinking on the band as a whole, as 5 musicians, and thats probably why he demanded so much that Axl maintained the GUNS style and basically he got precipitated and started demanding that the album was done a certain way that Axl didn't agree with and since Axl always declined he felt like he had to leave and felt like he didn't wanna take part on Axl's new project. Then he got precipitated again and said... FUCK IT... ill just release this songs under another band and leave this BS forever and he just left. And obviously Axl took it as a betrayal! During the Snakepit tour, probably Slash felt like he had to finally stand for himself and say what he though to the press, which was another precipitation. And that aggravated even more their relationship.

I think both parties are to blame on this to be honest, Axl for his lack of professionalism and commitment at that time because of whatever was going on with his life and lets not forget he had a hard break up with his then GF that he was planning to marry and have a life with, which probably hit him really hard)
I think Axl had his mind so occupied with other stuff in his life that at that time he couldn't really do a commitment and do GUNS.

I think Slash on the other hand though had to stay occupied because thats what would keep him busy and out of the reckless life he had! And didn't quite accept a change of direction, and Gilby being fired for Paul Tobias, and Axl not showing up in the studio, and the name paper stuff...and he precipitated and acted like a "big Fucking rock star hot shot" and went with the other band and eventually quitted. He thought that by doing that Axl would give up his ideas of changing and would eventually realize they couldn't live without each others input and things would be okay.

I think both could have used some time off from each other to put some order in their lives.
Slash could have used the time to clean up, stay out of drugs and alcohol and go on rehab. And Axl could have used the time to do a solo project and just vent his personal tastes on it and also to put his ideas in order.

I think they just needed a fucking simple pause really...

If this was the case, i think it was all a shame really.. they could have just talked to each other and insisted more in talks, or they could have go both solo for a year or so and then return to GUNS with both knowing that they were doing solos and then coming back.
That way Axl probably would have lost the whole Industrial sounding songs idea, and Slash would ended up accepting Tobias in the band, if he played more bluesy songs and if he was ready to compromise too and it would have all been a misunderstanding that would have been solved.

Anyways im not saying this was really what went down, but it is what i think it went down
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 01:43:35 PM by AxlRoseCalifornia »
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 01:46:35 PM »
Almost as sad as writing a book full of vehement, plz slash...

What are you talking about? That book is completely fair in my opinion... I mean, it doesn't go out and say Axl's an asshole, he says that the only person eligible to say ANYTHING bad about axl in relation to the gnr breakup is him, and that you can't really understand him unless you know him...
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 01:59:20 PM »
What are you talking about? That book is completely fair in my opinion... I mean, it doesn't go out and say Axl's an asshole, he says that the only person eligible to say ANYTHING bad about axl in relation to the gnr breakup is him, and that you can't really understand him unless you know him...
Gotta disagree with you there, sure it does not use the word asshole when referring to Axl, but a good bit of its content is stories painting Axl as the Asshole/bad guy of the band. He has a way of beating around the bush and then downplaying what he said, but the main point he got across was Axl was an ill tempered, egotistical prick who ruined the band.

Done get me wrong, im not saying either is right, Axl is direct with his stabs and comes off as a quasi-psychopath. Either way the only people who know or get what is going on is Axl and Slash. I try not to take sides, and I think the whole thing needs to end, when they take these shots at each other it just looks juvenile. Not as bad as you an I arguing over the book on the internet though, lol.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 02:43:00 PM by dman1991 »
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 02:06:30 PM »
Bottom line is- what a travesty. Destibed to be the next Rolling Stones/ Aerosmith.

The whole story is a mess because everyone defends themselves, plus I imagine drugs were involved somewhere?

I think there were battles for creative control somewhere along the line, but surely theyre old enough now to say okay, we'll go along with each-others ideas and see what happens?!

They could make hundreds of fucking millions but Axl doesnt want it, he has a major issue but just doesnt say why.
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 02:26:18 PM »
If u pay attention to it, Axl said he never wanted to change the music style of Guns N'Roses, but he changed it!

Even though that wasn't the motive for the break up...it pretty much makes Axl's side irrelevant in my opinion

Well that depends on how you define "changing the music style".  I don't think Axl ever wanted to change GNR into an industrial band, and he didn't. I believe Axl sees GNR as a band that takes influences from all other genres. SCOM was a Lynyrd Skynyrd type song. NR had Elton John influences. Used To Love Her is like a country song. That direction hasn't changed. Catcher is a beatlesque song, Sorry is a little Pink Floydish and there's industrial influences too.

Of course GNR sounds very different now than before because Slash, Duff and co aren't there anymore.
This is what Axl once said about the subject:
 "The music changed after Slash and I parted so the direction was where I took Guns not where I had intended or tried to go previously. It had a lot to do with not finding or knowing a more blues based player that I found inspiring"
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 03:26:47 PM by Lies They Tell »

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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 03:01:30 PM »
I cant wait to hear the rumoured Atlas Shrugged. "The Fountainhead" by the same author (Ayn Rand) addresses psychic of people, and some of it's characters in my opinion may relate to Axl and Slash.

the CITR, and Atlas Shrugged (the books) both explain the "phonies", and "moochers".
« Last Edit: February 28, 2010, 03:03:04 PM by Lucky »
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Re: Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2010, 03:12:43 PM »
Im with Slash and Cryme Tyme on this one This is a great oppurtunity to get money I don't mind giving my money  so why is it a problem to accept my money for a reunion.

 



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