Slash Talks About Axl's Comment on him last year.

[Lies They Tell]

Im with Slash and Cryme Tyme on this one This is a great oppurtunity to get money I don't mind giving my money  so why is it a problem to accept my money for a reunion.

Well imagine if all the things Axl has said are true! Slash destroyed old GNR (which pretty much was Axl's whole life) by leaving and then tells lies to the media so the whole world starts blaming Axl for destroying the band. Slash made Axl one of the most hated people on this planet.

If the above is true and I was Axl there's no way in hell I'd want to have anything to do with Slash, especially since I wouldn't exactly be short on cash.

[Lucky]

Im with Slash and Cryme Tyme on this one This is a great oppurtunity to get money I don't mind giving my money  so why is it a problem to accept my money for a reunion.

maybe it's because of "moral integrity"?

[mooney]

Couldn't Agree more, and i didn't quite buy Axl's side on the story!

If u pay attention to it, Axl said he never wanted to change the music style of Guns N'Roses, but he changed it!

Even though that wasn't the motive for the break up...it pretty much makes Axl's side irrelevant in my opinion.

Whats even more irrelevant though, is the fact that people still ask for a reunion, when this new band kicks ass!

im sorry, but the whole basis of your argument is flawed. You've picked small bits of text to make a clearly incorrect assumption.

In a phone interview with Kurt Loeder - 99 i think, Axl states that he wanted to do an old style record, or rather, more traditional but couldnt. Kurt asked "why" and Axl replies with one word, "Slash". He then explains that the bluesy riffing style wasnt possible without Slash and that the current band had tried to do it but it kept sounding dated, hence the more modern styling we have now - the sound has to change AFTER Slash left. Axl's forum posting version of events directly correlate what he had said in 1999 on the phone to Kurt Loeder (not sure on his last name spelling, btw).

you're searching for holes in Axl's story when there arent any, and you've convinced yourself that you are right. You're not - that's a fact. Im not trying to take sides, but the info you are spouting to other members is incorrect. If you're gonna called Axl's version of events "irrelevant", at least back it up factually. Im sure you have heard the phone interview, if not, it's most likely in text format on HTGTH. Im being lazy not posting it, and make no apologies for that! :P

[AxlRoseCalifornia]

im sorry, but the whole basis of your argument is flawed. You've picked small bits of text to make a clearly incorrect assumption.

In a phone interview with Kurt Loeder - 99 i think, Axl states that he wanted to do an old style record, or rather, more traditional but couldnt. Kurt asked "why" and Axl replies with one word, "Slash". He then explains that the bluesy riffing style wasnt possible without Slash and that the current band had tried to do it but it kept sounding dated, hence the more modern styling we have now - the sound has to change AFTER Slash left. Axl's forum posting version of events directly correlate what he had said in 1999 on the phone to Kurt Loeder (not sure on his last name spelling, btw).

you're searching for holes in Axl's story when there arent any, and you've convinced yourself that you are right. You're not - that's a fact. Im not trying to take sides, but the info you are spouting to other members is incorrect. If you're gonna called Axl's version of events "irrelevant", at least back it up factually. Im sure you have heard the phone interview, if not, it's most likely in text format on HTGTH. Im being lazy not posting it, and make no apologies for that! :P

I already listen to that interview, but its also known that Axl was going to explore a new direction, on various interviews with old members and magazines.
Also Gilby says after he got fired " I just wanted to play more bluesy songs and be the new rolling stones", which clearly states that that was not the plan Axl was going to follow.
Also the inclusion of Paul Tobias (Who is a more industrial sounding guitar player) and the fact Axl wanted to explore a more industrial sound is a proof!
If Axl wasn't going to change the traditional style, he wouldn't have picked Robin to be his lead guitar player.

[Lucky]

Matt Sorum indirectly suggested Finck as the replacement for Slash.
And Axl's intent on music was obviously rock when he had brought Zakk Wylde in the studio.

Paul Huge is not an industrial player.. just listen to his work on Sympathy for the devil.

[mooney]

I already listen to that interview, but its also known that Axl was going to explore a new direction, on various interviews with old members and magazines.
Also Gilby says after he got fired " I just wanted to play more bluesy songs and be the new rolling stones", which clearly states that that was not the plan Axl was going to follow.
Also the inclusion of Paul Tobias (Who is a more industrial sounding guitar player) and the fact Axl wanted to explore a more industrial sound is a proof!
If Axl wasn't going to change the traditional style, he wouldn't have picked Robin to be his lead guitar player.

Your quote from Gilby, without the proper context it was said in, could mean anything. Nothing about it suggests what you think it does. poor effort there. As for the rest, well, Lucky has kinda done the work for me, so i'll just +1 it!

for the record, gilby was fired for his lack of writing skills... the consensus is, Axl was fully up for a more traditional hard rock record, but then Slash left, so he couldnt do it - he states this in the 99 interview and the forum posts, many years after that 99 interview. Now, for what it seems, Slash thought the material was ready to go, it just needed vocals, whereas Axl felt it needed some work but had potential, infact, he was complimentary about it, "best blues riffs since rocks by Aerosmith" or something. His story, at the very least, is consistent.

In Slash's book, Slash says he was happy to do a different kind of record, yet, in an earlier interview (again, i cant be assed to find it) he states he wanted to do another AFD style thing and that Axl wanted to do other things. One story (Axl's) is at least - or rather, from the quotes we have - consistent.

[AxlRoseCalifornia]

Your quote from Gilby, without the proper context it was said in, could mean anything. Nothing about it suggests what you think it does. poor effort there. As for the rest, well, Lucky has kinda done the work for me, so i'll just +1 it!

for the record, gilby was fired for his lack of writing skills... the consensus is, Axl was fully up for a more traditional hard rock record, but then Slash left, so he couldnt do it - he states this in the 99 interview and the forum posts, many years after that 99 interview. Now, for what it seems, Slash thought the material was ready to go, it just needed vocals, whereas Axl felt it needed some work but had potential, infact, he was complimentary about it, "best blues riffs since rocks by Aerosmith" or something. His story, at the very least, is consistent.

In Slash's book, Slash says he was happy to do a different kind of record, yet, in an earlier interview (again, i cant be assed to find it) he states he wanted to do another AFD style thing and that Axl wanted to do other things. One story (Axl's) is at least - or rather, from the quotes we have - consistent.

"Axl felt it needed some work but had potential, infact, he was complimentary about it, "best blues riffs since rocks by Aerosmith" or something"

He also stated in his posts that that was a lie, and he didn't quite say that and that he tought the sound seemed quite "dated".

[Vorail]

"Axl felt it needed some work but had potential, infact, he was complimentary about it, "best blues riffs since rocks by Aerosmith" or something"

He also stated in his posts that that was a lie, and he didn't quite say that and that he tought the sound seemed quite "dated".

He said that the blues riffs they came up with AFTER Slash left sounded dated, and that is why he went in a different direction, because Slash was not there.

[AxlRoseCalifornia]

He said that the blues riffs they came up with AFTER Slash left sounded dated, and that is why he went in a different direction, because Slash was not there.

ok ok my bad.

I still think thats its really strange that at the time Slash was in the band, there were already rumours that Axl wanted to do something industrial... and that at least some of the songs in CD and even the way CD was supposed to be in 2002 was partly industrial. Coincidence maybe?

[Vorail]

ok ok my bad.

I still think thats its really strange that at the time Slash was in the band, there were already rumours that Axl wanted to do something industrial... and that at least some of the songs in CD and even the way CD was supposed to be in 2002 was partly industrial. Coincidence maybe?

Maybe he wanted to do blues, but also experiment in an industrial sound, toy around with it and see what they could do. If you listen to the two 99 demos they sounds more blues focused than the album versions of IRS and There Was A Time.

[AxlRoseCalifornia]

Maybe he wanted to do blues, but also experiment in an industrial sound, toy around with it and see what they could do. If you listen to the two 99 demos they sounds more blues focused than the album versions of IRS and There Was A Time.

I honestly think they sound more industrial then the versions on the album. And thats why i like them.
Twat and IRS in CD sound more like normal rock than the 99 versions

[Vorail]

I honestly think they sound more industrial then the versions on the album. And thats why i like them.
Twat and IRS in CD sound more like normal rock than the 99 versions

I always found the IRS demo to be way to soft and smooth. It was nice, but I do agree that the album versions may be more 'rock', but a different style. I guess it's all opinion and taste.

[Lucky]

ok ok my bad.

I still think thats its really strange that at the time Slash was in the band, there were already rumours that Axl wanted to do something industrial...

those rumors didnt happen till 1997; for a few reasons. There was nobody to "rumor" it, since no internet sites before that (except good old LostRose.com), and at that point it was founded, since Finck was soon to join the band.
it was also imposible to attempt industrial with Slash/Sorum in the band, just the idea of them playing industrial is ROTFL.

[madison]

Slash: It's never been a question, its never been a possible thing. It's not just a question of 'oh can't you just put aside your differences?'. Nobody get's it. And i can understand that - why would it be so hard to get a bunch of guys together and make ton's of money and get them to play some fucking song's? What's the big deal? Well it's a bigger deal for him then it is for me. But at the same time, it's not possible it just wont happen.
Under different circumstances I'd be the first one to do it. But if that were the case i would never of quit in the first place. Axl's been spewing out all this vehement stuff against me, and he picked on a couple of other people and shit, and it's just like... It's just sad.

I have to agree with Slash.
It’s odd – you know, I used to blindly defend Axl and never understood why so many people put all the blame for the band’s split solely on Axl’s shoulders. I thought they were being unfair to Axl – afterall, Slash quit and Axl stayed with the band, right?  Well, I no longer believe it’s this simple.   

After recently finding myself on the receiving end of one of Axl’s more vitriolic – and childish – rants, I find myself sympathizing with Slash. Axl’s “cancer” comment and angry obsession with anything Slash-related – such as his rant against me for exposing the Slash gear policy - is just sad.

Just for the record – I continue to stand by my sources for the Slash gear story.  The sources were highly credible, and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the "Slash gear" policy was definitely in place for the Winnipeg show.  I can't say if the policy continued after Winnipeg - given the huge firestorm that erupted on the Net over it - but it was definitely there for the Winnipeg show.  And the fact that Axl had no interest in speaking to the security manager who confirmed the policy to  find out the truth – and preferred instead to shoot the messenger (me) instead - seems to indicate he too knew the story was true.

Anyhow – all of this has given me a new perspective on Axl and GNR.  If Axl can make over-the-top slanderous attacks against a long-time diehard fan – one who spent eight years building a forum to support him and help keep his band’s name and music alive on that forum when there was no news or album  -  over a Slash story – then it certainly makes me wonder about the kinds of things he might have done and said that drove Slash to quit GNR.  Just my 2 cents.