How much does a university education cost in your country?

[anythinggoes]

I just hope my daughter is thick like me when it comes to that time of life

[2NaFish]

the amount of property taxes paid by the avg household is about half of what it costs to go to a year (2 semesters) of a semi decent 4 year college.

well bully for them, what about the people who pay less than the avg? where do they get their schooling? Its all fair and well complaining about how the rich are fucked over in this system and willing to ignore the fact that anyone who cant afford it doesnt deserve it. You're still yet to show how poor people will  be educated. In fact in all this they've never even been mentioned by you and yet its the question i've asked every single time. If 40 million cant afford a health system how many will go without a decent education?

And why are you talking about college? We were talking about primary and secondary education. A college lecturer teaches hundreds of students. The optimum level of children taught in primary education is 18 meaning far higher costs. So, alongside ignoring the most vulnerable in society, you also shifted the goalposts in terms of costs.

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how does payment work in the UK/US/wherever else?

in aus they take something like less than 1% of your wage for the rest of your life till it's paid, but that's assuming you're earning enough in the first place, i don't know what the cut-off salary is.

it's kind of effective in that if you use your degree to find a higher paying job then you can pay back what the country has given you and the system goes round and round, but if you're pissing away time on something you're not going to use, or if , for eg., youre retired and doing it for the sake of it (as i've seen happen), then i'm not so sure it should be taxpayers footing the bill

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is that slim pickens in your avatar?  I can't tell

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yip

the nuclear holocaust montage that follows while vera lynn's 'we'll meet again' plays in the background has got to be the most beautifully morbid movie scene ever

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it makes me sad that nemo never came back to say anything

[Ice Blue]

£4.99

[nemo]

it makes me sad that nemo never came back to say anything

I didn't realise there was anything for me to respond to.

I don't believe unpaid internships are fair.  Nor do I buy the argument that there are unseen victims to having a minimum wage.  If your company can't afford to hire 1 more employee at a wage on which it's impossible to actually make a living then I hardly count that as a tragedy or a problem on the same scale as someone being asked to give up their time and energy for an exploitative hourly rate.  I don't see the good in that at all to be honest.  Even from a solely capitalist, economic position, assuming for a second our decisions should be guided by a desire to please this amoral, post-ethics, non-agential assemblage called the market, you might shift some people out of the 'unemployed' column on a spreadsheet, but they're not even being given any spending power (capital or cultural capital) to take part in any further economic activity.

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I didn't realise there was anything for me to respond to.

I don't believe unpaid internships are fair.  Nor do I buy the argument that there are unseen victims to having a minimum wage.  If your company can't afford to hire 1 more employee at a wage on which it's impossible to actually make a living then I hardly count that as a tragedy or a problem on the same scale as someone being asked to give up their time and energy for an exploitative hourly rate.  I don't see the good in that at all to be honest.  Even from a solely capitalist, economic position, assuming for a second our decisions should be guided by a desire to please this amoral, post-ethics, non-agential assemblage called the market, you might shift some people out of the 'unemployed' column on a spreadsheet, but they're not even being given any spending power (capital or cultural capital) to take part in any further economic activity.

yes it will, it gives poor ppl the opportunity to advance in the world that was previous retained for students who didn't have to make money while they padded their resume and learned a trade and interned for free.   besides, it has nothing to do with not being able to afford another minimum wage position, it had to do with spending money on a worker that didn't make up in production what they required in payment

ask any minority, poor or young person what the biggest factor stopping them for succeeding is

[BarbiStolatVonG]

In Australia, a teaching degree costs roughly $25,000 AUS (it may have gone up since)

Students can apply for a Commonwealth loan, once you start earning, the $25,000 plus interest is deducted gradually from one's paycheck each fortnight.




Once upon a time, teaching degrees were free and student teachers were even paid whilst 'on prac' in the classroom.