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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1386 on: March 17, 2009, 01:56:47 PM »
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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1387 on: March 17, 2009, 04:51:49 PM »
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And I am currently reading some Aristotle and Pluto, I am deep into that kind of stuff

Pluto?  Roman God of the Underworld?  I didn't realise he was published.  How is he..?



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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1388 on: March 17, 2009, 05:49:34 PM »
He means Pluto,the (ex) planet.

Duh.
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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1389 on: March 18, 2009, 07:11:27 AM »
right now I'm studying the KORAN.

Dude thats the English translation say Quran  :ninja:

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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1390 on: March 18, 2009, 09:57:24 AM »
He means Pluto,the (ex) planet.

Duh.

I thought he was talking about the dog :?:

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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1391 on: March 18, 2009, 01:36:44 PM »
Or possibly Plato, founder of one of the first ever organized schools. Which Aristotle attended.

Socrates, Aristotle and Plato and probably the most important thinkers in the Western World.
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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1392 on: March 18, 2009, 03:18:18 PM »
Nah,he definitely means Pluto.
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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1393 on: March 18, 2009, 05:06:41 PM »
Or possibly Plato, founder of one of the first ever organized schools. Which Aristotle attended.

Socrates, Aristotle and Plato and probably the most important thinkers in the Western World.

Nonsense, Hegel, Marx, Adam Smith and Darwin are probably the most important thinkers in the Western World.  If you want to go back that far though I'd give a shout to Thales as possibly more innovative than the 3 of them.

The main thrust of what i was trying to say though was I prefer it when people at least get the names right if they want to pretend they're 'deeply interested' in one of my own areas of interest.

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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1394 on: March 18, 2009, 06:49:06 PM »
Nonsense, Hegel, Marx, Adam Smith and Darwin are probably the most important thinkers in the Western World.  If you want to go back that far though I'd give a shout to Thales as possibly more innovative than the 3 of them.

The main thrust of what i was trying to say though was I prefer it when people at least get the names right if they want to pretend they're 'deeply interested' in one of my own areas of interest.

I'll give you Darwin and possibly Marx, definitely in terms of how their ideas have influenced politics and science in Europe for the 20th Century onwards. (Admittedly they were both published in the 19th Century but I'd argue that The Descent of Man did not influence science until the 1930's and The Communist Manifesto did not influence politics until Lenin and his Materialism and Empiriocriticism.) In terms of historical importance and influence I think I'll stick with my boys, Platos influence on Hegel is very apparent.

I will admit I'm still learning about philosophy after picking up Marx, Nietzche and Darwin in high school. I actually have The Wealth of Nations in my 'to read' pile, I was about to start Spinoza's Ethics as well.
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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1395 on: March 18, 2009, 08:06:02 PM »
Or possibly Plato, founder of one of the first ever organized schools. Which Aristotle attended.

Socrates, Aristotle and Plato and probably the most important thinkers in the Western World.

Yep, just misspelled it while I was in a rush to shut down the comp

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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1396 on: March 19, 2009, 12:24:02 AM »
I last read "la testa degli italiani" by Beppe Severgnini about what it's like to be Italian, and I'm now reading "Madame Bovary" by Flaubert. 

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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1397 on: March 20, 2009, 05:19:20 PM »
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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1398 on: March 21, 2009, 02:25:56 PM »
Or possibly Plato, founder of one of the first ever organized schools. Which Aristotle attended.

Socrates, Aristotle and Plato and probably the most important thinkers in the Western World.

I'll grant you Aristotle but in terms of philosophical value there's not too much to be found in Plato aside from some of the influence he had on Aristotle and the classic Socratic/Platonic criticism of democracy.
However it has to be said that Plato did have a big influence with his theory of forms in terms of providing a debate between the medieval nominalists and realist and then further on influenced Russell since he later called the forms "universals". Oh how philosophers with strong desires are willing to invent such fictions!

In terms of philosophical development Descartes is undoubtedly the most influential philosopher of the modern period since without him there would be no spurious debate between the British Empiricists and Continental Rationalism, no subject matter of psychology and most likely there wouldn't have been such a change to individualistic political philosophy, no concept of a mind as a private mental space containing privately owned objects, no introduction of consciousness as an epistemological self to mental object relation, no division between objectivity and subjectivity, no minds and no Wittgenstein to destroy the whole charade.
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Re: What was the last book you read ?
« Reply #1399 on: March 21, 2009, 06:18:14 PM »
I'll grant you Aristotle but in terms of philosophical value there's not too much to be found in Plato aside from some of the influence he had on Aristotle and the classic Socratic/Platonic criticism of democracy.
However it has to be said that Plato did have a big influence with his theory of forms in terms of providing a debate between the medieval nominalists and realist and then further on influenced Russell since he later called the forms "universals". Oh how philosophers with strong desires are willing to invent such fictions!

In terms of philosophical development Descartes is undoubtedly the most influential philosopher of the modern period since without him there would be no spurious debate between the British Empiricists and Continental Rationalism, no subject matter of psychology and most likely there wouldn't have been such a change to individualistic political philosophy, no concept of a mind as a private mental space containing privately owned objects, no introduction of consciousness as an epistemological self to mental object relation, no division between objectivity and subjectivity, no minds and no Wittgenstein to destroy the whole charade.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave

That's kinda important, y'know... Even today you can see the influence in things like 3rd wave feminism.  How do you reconcile the obvious importance of the theory of forms that you do concede with the idea that there's little of philosophical value to take from Plato?  The cave even covers that whole objectivity/subjectivity thing you're attributing to Descartes pretty well.

I'll give Descartes the badge of importance, yeah.  I left him off my list because I don't like him, which isn't really a very good way of judging how important people are, I guess...

 



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