iraq death toll

[Rock Diva]

God bless my country and God bless the change we are making in all those Iraqi peoples lives who are now free and making their countries choices for themselves.

You are a big ignorant fool. Not a day goes by when there isn't yet another report of bombings in Iraq and innocent people being kidnapped and murdered. You seem to think that innocent lives and children being lost is a fair price for the chance to cast a vote which may or may not make a difference and is a drop in the ocean on a rational level. According to you, the fear of getting gunned down in the street with each next step you take is fun compared to the fear of some dictator who was only out for his next meal and shag.

Since Iraq is now the epitome of freedom, which you claim your country has made it, I challenge you to take your overfed, pampered little cellulite ass there to live.
Go on. It's a country drowned in peace and harmony, what have you to fear ?

By the way, the US unemployment rate was around 4% in Clinton's regime, you clown.

[iconic_lust]

God bless my country and God bless the change we are making in all those Iraqi peoples lives who are now free and making their countries choices for themselves.

You are a big ignorant fool. Not a day goes by when there isn't yet another report of bombings in Iraq and innocent people being kidnapped and murdered. You seem to think that innocent lives and children being lost is a fair price for the chance to cast a vote which may or may not make a difference and is a drop in the ocean on a rational level. According to you, the fear of getting gunned down in the street with each next step you take is fun compared to the fear of some dictator who was only out for his next meal and shag.

Since Iraq is now the epitome of freedom, which you claim your country has made it, I challenge you to take your overfed, pampered little cellulite ass there to live.
Go on. It's a country drowned in peace and harmony, what have you to fear ?

By the way, the US unemployment rate was around 4% in Clinton's regime, you clown.

Haha...everytime this chick posts it makes me smile and all warm inside. She always like  

Yes. I believe that if some people have to die in order for the overall people to get their freedom then it has to be done.

It is already making a difference in their lives and they have shown this in how they are opening up businesses and simply living better lives than before. It also shows when after all the bombings and threats they STILL turn up to vote in RECORD numbers. The people are speaking for themselves and they were very happy to show off those inked fingers.

People people are getting bombed but its no where near as bad as it was last year. Improvment is a good thing.

Dictator who was out for a meal and shack huh?  Do you have any idea how stupid that shit sounds? lol...that made me laugh though and this early in the morning I need it. Thanks.

Its not the epitome of freedom. I said its a better place for its own people with the changes my country and other countries who have backed us have helped make for them.

Would I wanna live there? No. Because I love the states. Why the fuck would I wanna live anywhere else? I live in NEW YORK CITY!  They don't have enough rock clubs in Iraq for me to play at. The women are not my type and I don't like sand and sun too much.  I'd gladly visit the place though in a few years. Oh...and the women are not my type. Maybe in time they will open up a few clubs...chicks will dress all hot and rock will be introduced.

4% huh? Well, if thats true then that rocks. 5% is not far off though and its getting better. Much better than what I hear it is in Europe. But again...Im not in Europe so I dont know for sure but thats what I hear. Its supposedly like 12-15% there.

Overfed, pampered little cellulite ass? Haha...surely you jest babe.  I'm in pretty good shape. If you paid attention you would know that I work for everything I have and believe in earning my stuff and last I checked I was cellulite free. Thats nasty shit right there but thanks for your concern and allowing me to clear that up for you. You're such a doll.

Hun, lets not make this personal eh? Us gents were simply expressing our views on things. Settle down little lady. You're bitchy "diva" does you no justice.

By the way... do you ever cook or do laundry?    <--Looks Chinese.

[Sean]

If you think you may be drinking too much, or know someone who has problems with drinking, talk to your doctor or phone the Alcohol & Drug Helpline on 0800 787 797. It's a free service.



FACT: Job Growth Under Bush Worst in 70 Years

[iconic_lust]

If you think you may be drinking too much, or know someone who has problems with drinking, talk to your doctor or phone the Alcohol & Drug Helpline on 0800 787 797. It's a free service.

(http://www.aflcio.org/issues/jobseconomy/jobs/images/jobcrisis_chart1.gif)

FACT: Job Growth Under Bush Worst in 70 Years

Wrong.

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The economy added 108,000 new jobs in December and has added more than 400,000 jobs in the last two months. More than 4.6 million new jobs have been added since May 2003. The unemployment rate is now down to 4.9 percent - lower than the average of the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/economy/

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[Sean]

yes jobs at McDonalds on the rise. Here is a broader scope


by EPI President Lawrence Mishel and Policy Director Ross Eisenbrey
1. Profits are up, but the wages and the incomes of average Americans are down.

Inflation-adjusted hourly and weekly wages are still below where they were at the start of the recovery in November 2001. Yet, productivityâ€"the growth of the economic pieâ€"is up by 13.5%.


Wage growth has been shortchanged because 35% of the growth of total income in the corporate sector has been distributed as corporate profits, far more than the 22% in previous periods.


Consequently, median household income (inflation-adjusted) has fallen five years in a row and was 4% lower in 2004 than in 1999, falling from $46,129 to $44,389.
2. More and more people are deeper and deeper in debt.

The indebtedness of U.S. households, after adjusting for inflation, has risen 35.7% over the last four years.


The level of debt as a percent of after-tax income is the highest ever measured in our history. Mortgage and consumer debt is now 115% of after-tax income, twice the level of 30 years ago.


The debt-service ratio (the percent of after-tax income that goes to pay off debts) is at an all-time high of 13.6%.


The personal savings rate is negative for the first time since WWII.
3. Job creation has not kept up with population growth, and the employment rate has fallen sharply.

The United States has only 1.3% more jobs today (excluding the effects of Hurricane Katrina) than in March 2001 (the start of the recession). Private sector jobs are up only 0.8%. At this stage of previous business cycles, jobs had grown by an average of 8.8% and never less than 6.0%.


The unemployment rate is relatively low at 5%, but still higher than the 4% in 2000. Plus, the percent of the population that has a job has never recovered since the recession and is still 1.3% lower than in March 2001. If the employment rate had returned to pre-recession levels, 3 million more people would be employed.


More than 3 million manufacturing jobs have been lost since January 2000.
4. Poverty is on the rise.

The poverty rate rose from 11.3% in 2000 to 12.7% in 2004.


The number of people living in poverty has increased by 5.4 million since 2000.


More children are living in poverty: the child poverty rate increased from 16.2% in 2000 to 17.8% in 2004.
5. Rising health care costs are eroding families' already declining income.

Households are spending more on health care. Family health costs rose 43-45% for married couples with children, single mothers, and young singles from 2000 to 2003.


Employers are cutting back on health insurance. Last year, the percent of people with employer-provided health insurance fell for the fourth year in a row. Nearly 3.7 million fewer people had employer-provided insurance in 2004 than in 2000. Taking population growth into account, 11 million more people would have had employer-provided health insurance in 2004 if the coverage rate had remained at the 2000 level.

[iconic_lust]

I was checking out that site and it seems to be a site where all they do is go "Yeah this is good BUT this other thing here is so messed up." I also noticed that almost all of their articles are based off theory and number crunches. I -also- noticed that all of the reports there were negative and could not help but notice them taking shots at Bush.

You want things to be perfect for everyone everywhere? Sure everyone should have an equal shot but I was talking to my boss today about this health insurance stuff and he says that big taxes and union pressure for raises are what cut down on health insurance. If the poor keep asking and taking the business owners are going to make cuts.  If the dems continue to want to raise taxes on the rich, the business owners will make cuts. Its common knowledge.

Now before I hear that the rich should pay taxes cause they have more...  90% of all US tax income comes from people who make $500,000 a year or more.  90% The "poor" have nothing to bitch about. Especially when they get almost everything for free.

Taxes are another issue though...  My point in the post was to show that the 4.9 number I had mentioned was indeed fact.  

I'm not interested in the -run around in circles pointing fingers- "Yeah but..." argument that people love to bring up when their bs gets shot down one point at a time.

You did this as well in the other thread where it became a "yeah but..." type thing. Very trendy of you.

[Sean]

I was checking out that site and it seems to be a site where all they do is go "Yeah this is good BUT this other thing here is so messed up." I also noticed that almost all of their articles are based off theory and number crunches. I -also- noticed that all of the reports there were negative and could not help but notice them taking shots at Bush.

Nope. their is no shots at Bush from the source. Maybe you read sites with the information with pissed off people. in fact you did.
This info was made from Economists who actually do this for a living & Doctors in the field that are reknown nonpartisan researchers. Most of the information is just known anyway.

anyway the rise is a growth in wages only for the Rich top bracket. For median & lower is down still. That goes for Manufacturing jobs all time low that has affected many of my loved ones as you know NJ & NY has been devastated. that goes for Technical jobs that I seen many good people suffer in their feild. The list goes on.. but should be common sense.

[ash_migash_]

Things will get better when the US gets rid of Bush!!!

[LAbouski]

We got sadam out of power but we still need to kill every iraqian on the planet before they do the 9/11 and the next 7/7 attack so this war is a good thing

[nemo]

We got sadam out of power but we still need to kill every iraqian on the planet before they do the 9/11 and the next 7/7 attack so this war is a good thing

good point, well presented.

dunno why you're not secretary of defence